Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-19 Thread Marc Schwartz via R-help
Hi All, We need to get clarification from Kristin as to what kinds of issues are raised in the context of a risk analysis from her IT people. Since Kristin's wording indicated: "...all programs that our employees/providers use must be vetted through the IT Department by way of a Risk

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-19 Thread John Harrold
I think the question of validation is very different from the risk analysis referenced in the subject line. On the subject of the FDA accepting open source software. Personally I've done two sBLA submissions where simulation results were essential aspects of the filings. Both were approved and

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-19 Thread Helmut Schütz
Dear all, any (!) software used in regulated environments has to be validated. Regrettably is is a misconception by many working in the pharmaceutical industry that only studies evaluated by SAS are accepted by the FDA. See this one-pager https://www.fda.gov/media/109552/download and a

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread Richard O'Keefe
No, it was precisely my *point* that Matlab is proprietary. The medical researchers I knew a few years ago refused to use R on the grounds that the international agencies they dealt with all used SAS, which is proprietary. So I am wondering if "ALL programs that our employees/PROVIDERS use"

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread Bert Gunter
Ummm...Except that Matlab is proprietary and for profit, not open source. Did you perhaps mean Octave? Bert Gunter "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and sticking things into it." -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip ) On Thu, Jun

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread Richard O'Keefe
Just as a matter of curiosity, what are some of the programs that have already been vetted, what methods were used, and how long did the vetting take? As the R guidance points out, R was not designed for creating or updating medical records, so it should be treated the same way as say LibreOffice

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread John Harrold
I work in Pharma and we use R in all the companies I've worked for. They are really paranoid and it's used in regulated environments as well with patient data. So there should be something they can do. Kristin: I can put you in touch with vendors who do our regulated work in R if you're

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread David Winsemius
On 6/18/20 3:41 PM, John Harrold wrote: Hello Kristin, Are you talking about risk analysis from the perspective of software vulnerabilities? It appears that is exactly what is being asked. What is not clear is whether the installation would be offered to persons or groups on the network

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread Jeff Newmiller
R is open source software that is offered as-is, and many users of R utilize additional "contributed" packages which are developed and vetted independently of the R Core members. In addition, it is common for users of R to add minor functionality in the course of obtaining useful results, which

Re: [R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread John Harrold
Hello Kristin, Are you talking about risk analysis from the perspective of software vulnerabilities? John On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:21 PM Wait, Kristin wrote: > HI all, > > I am with a NYS major trauma center and all programs that our > employees/providers use must be vetted through the IT

[R] R Software Risk Analysis

2020-06-18 Thread Wait, Kristin
HI all, I am with a NYS major trauma center and all programs that our employees/providers use must be vetted through the IT Department by way of a Risk Analysis. Is there someone I would talk to about this? I scoured your website and could not find a specific person. Thank you so much Kristin