Re: [R] Repeated measures design for GAM? - corrected question...

2009-01-29 Thread Simon Wood
Diederik, The `gamm' call looks fine provided `park' is nested in `count'. You are basically adding a random effect for each survey, and a random effect for each `park' within survey to the the smooth effects. best, Simon ps. I assume there are more than 18 observations in the full dataset

[R] Repeated measures design for GAM? - corrected question...

2009-01-28 Thread Strubbe Diederik
Dear all, I have a question on the use of GAM with repeated measures. My dataset is as follows: - a number of study areas where bird abundance has been determined. Counts have been performed in 3 consecutive years and there were 2 counts per year (i.e. in total 6 counts). - a number of

Re: [R] Repeated measures design for GAM? - corrected question...

2009-01-28 Thread Simon Wood
`gamm' in package `mgcv' will let you specify random effects as part of a generalized additive mixed model, but I must admit that I'm a bit confused about what `Bird_abundance' is here, and how it differs from `Count'. best, Simon On Wednesday 28 January 2009 17:09, Strubbe Diederik wrote:

Re: [R] Repeated measures design for GAM? - corrected question...

2009-01-28 Thread Strubbe Diederik
Dear Simon, Many thanks for pointing me to the GAMM! For clarification, Bird_abundance are breeding densities ( e.g. 1.25 BP/ha, 2.20 BP/ha,...) and count is just the actual survey(e.g. first_survey,...). The dataset looks like Bird_abundance Study_area YEARCOUNT X1 X2 X3