I can't think of an example where R does not work better than SAS except
for a few cases of mixed effects regression models and for processing
enormous datasets when the R user does not want to learn about the
latest R tools for large datasets. I quit using SAS in 1991 (in favor
of S-Plus and
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Emne: Re: [R] SAS VS R - What type of analysis is better?
I can't think of an example where R does not work better than SAS except
for a few cases of mixed effects regression models and for processing
enormous datasets when the R user does not want
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Emne: Re: [R] SAS VS R - What type of analysis is better?
I can't think of an example where R does not work better than SAS except
for a few cases of mixed effects regression models and for processing
enormous datasets
I never saw the original note nor its resubmission. Nor could I find it
in the R-help archives.
Is it just me?
Not that it really matters a damn --- I don't use SAS either --- I'm just
curious, and find the situation mysterious.
cheers,
Rolf
On 03/04/2013 04:32 PM, Frank
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rolf Turner rolf.tur...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
I never saw the original note nor its resubmission. Nor could I find it
in the R-help archives.
Is it just me?
No, same here.
Not that it really matters a damn --- I don't use SAS either --- I'm just
curious, and
.
A link to Nabble was at the end of Frank's reply:
http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/SAS-and-R-complement-each-other-tp4660157p4660190.html
Probably not worth a read, though (especially because the message only
talks about... SAS, not R).
Regards
On 03/04/2013 04:32 PM, Frank Harrell wrote:
I'm
On 2013-03-04 12:04, Ista Zahn wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rolf Turner rolf.tur...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
I never saw the original note nor its resubmission. Nor could I find it
in the R-help archives.
Is it just me?
No, same here.
Think Nabble!!!
(where there are often waits for
On Mar 4, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Peter Ehlers wrote:
On 2013-03-04 12:04, Ista Zahn wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rolf Turner rolf.tur...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
I never saw the original note nor its resubmission. Nor could I find it
in the R-help archives.
Is it just me?
No, same
On 2013-03-04 12:30, David Winsemius wrote:
On Mar 4, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Peter Ehlers wrote:
On 2013-03-04 12:04, Ista Zahn wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rolf Turner rolf.tur...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
I never saw the original note nor its resubmission. Nor could I find it
in the
, Vanderbilt University
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Hello everybody,
A statistician performed an analysis in SAS for me which I would like to
replicate in R.
I have however problems in figuring out the R code to do that.
As I understood it was a covariance regression model. In the analysis,
baseline was used as covariate and autoregressive
Marianne Stephan mariannestephan at hotmail.com writes:
A statistician performed an analysis in SAS for me which I would
like to replicate in R. I have however problems in figuring out the
R code to do that. As I understood it was a covariance regression
model. In the analysis, baseline was
Hi,
I need to call an R program from Sas. I have tried using the following code
in Sas using the x command but it just calls up dos and says
'D:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
program or batch file.
]
SAS CODE:
options xwait xsync;
%let Rsource=S
Sarah,
This is a SAS question, not R. However, it seems clear that it
has something to do with the fact that there are spaces in the
command that you're sending to Windows.
Maybe try calling with the 'short directory name' notation,
I forget what that's called in Windows.
Or else follow-up
David Winsemius wrote:
On Sep 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Sarah Jilani wrote:
Hi,
I need to call an R program from Sas. I have tried using the following
code
in Sas using the x command but it just calls up dos and says
I went searching for a worked example and found this:
http
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To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Sas to R
Hi,
I need to call an R program from Sas. I have tried using
run from the Windows command prompt:
%PROGRAMFILES%/R/R-2.11.1/bin/R.exe CMD BATCH C:/myscript.R C:/results.txt
Cheers,
Josh
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Sarah Jilani sarahjil...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I need to call an R program from Sas. I have tried using the following code
in Sas using
is an example run from the Windows command prompt:
%PROGRAMFILES%/R/R-2.11.1/bin/R.exe CMD BATCH C:/myscript.R
C:/results.txt
Cheers,
Josh
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Sarah Jilani sarahjil...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I need to call an R program from Sas. I have tried using the following
;
===
so far i think it is
gls(weight~day,corr=corSymm(???),method=REML,data=small)
my main problem is I dont know how to get the unstructured covariance matrix
to work
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, “SAS for R Users.” That’ll be the day!'
Heh! I quite agree. I've had a few people write me saying they had used my
book R for SAS and SPSS Users to learn SAS, but I certainly didn't aim for
that when writing it. For R programmers wanting to learn SAS, here's what I
recommend:
1. Read the text
Thomas Levine wrote:
Bob Muenchen says that 'Ralph O’Brien says that
in a few years there will be so many students
graduating knowing mainly R that [he]’ll need to
write, “SAS for R Users.” That’ll be the day!'
Heh! I quite agree. I've had a few people write me saying they had used my book
R
There are loads of resources for users of any other
statistics package who are learning R. For example
http://www.google.com/search?q=r+for+sas-users;
The reverse isn't the case
http://www.google.com/search?q=sas+for+r-users;
Having heard rumors of how unelegant other statistics
packages
Thomas Levine wrote:
There are loads of resources for users of any other
statistics package who are learning R. For example
http://www.google.com/search?q=r+for+sas-users;
The reverse isn't the case
http://www.google.com/search?q=sas+for+r-users;
snip
I can't wait that long. Until
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Thomas Levine wrote:
There are loads of resources for users of any
other
statistics
Thomas writes:
... Until then and until I can
convince colleagues and teachers to use better
software, how do you suggest that I learn SAS?
I suspect that it'll be a book on R for SAS-users,
so I'm expecting recommendations of books like
those that are best for R-users learning SAS
then a true programming environment. It generates terrible
code, and programmers are sometimes relegated to cleaning up the CEOs code
for production.
Thanks Everyone
This thred was an educationa opportunity for me
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Douglas Bates wrote:
The first VAX at our university, a VAX-11/780, was allegedly a 1
MIPS machine but it was pretty difficult to get it to do a million of
any instruction in one second. I eventually succeeded because it had
a special instruction for decrement and branch on zero so if you
Roger DeAngelis(xlr82sas) wrote:
Hi,
About the forest plot.
Some Phrarma companies demand the report and graphics follow very
restrictive layouts.
Thank goodness that the FDA does not require that.
Frank
SAS allows uses to use one template for graphs and tables.
Margins have
Also I have seen 5,000 page listings in SAS.
Is this a pro or a con?
Hadley
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the same line weight throughout the table.
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Roger DeAngelis(xlr82sas)
rdean...@amgen.com wrote:
Hi,
First a quick note about FDA and Style Guides.
Frank is correct the FDA does not require strict formatting. I once worked
for small startup and they sent EXCEL sheets to the FDA. However big pharma
for each page. I don't think R is well suited
for this cand og analysis.
SOAPBOX ON
If I had my way, I would remove IML from SAS and slide in R.
My comments are primarily to get the R developers to improve R. SAS needs
the competition. I don't see R as a replacement for SAS.
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100s of journal
articles, We integrated the R meta package with SAS to get the fixed/random
effects and used SAS for input and final reports.
SAS simply cannot keep up with new statistical algorithms.
I wish I could show you some of style guides I have seen at various pharma
companies. Here
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Thanks Dennis,
Thanks
Hi,
This is not meant to be critical of R, but is intended as
a possible source for improvements to R.
SAS needs the competition.
I am reasonably knowledgeable about
R
SAS-(all products including IML)
SAS and R run on
Windows(all flavors)
UNIX(all flavors)
Apple OSs
Does R run on natively
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Roger DeAngelis(xlr82sas) wrote:
SAS and R run on
Windows(all flavors)
UNIX(all flavors)
Apple OSs
I would expect that for more obscure Unices it would be difficult to get SAS,
but basically, yes.
Does R run on natively (no emulation)?
We have quite a few users
SAS and R run on
Windows(all flavors)
UNIX(all flavors)
Apple OSs
According to SAS (http://support.sas.com/kb/33/140.html and
http://support.sas.com/kb/22/960.html), SAS will not run on OS X past 10.4. OS
X 10.5 was released in late 2007, so I don't think it's really fair to say that
SAS
of
these operating systems. These releases extend JMP’s groundbreaking new way
to explore and visualize data to more users.
I get very confused with the myriad of SAS products.
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On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Roger DeAngelis(xlr82sas)
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Hi,
This is not meant to be critical of R, but is intended as
a possible source for improvements to R.
SAS needs the competition.
I am reasonably knowledgeable about
R
SAS-(all products including IML
On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 23:12 +0100, Barry Rowlingson wrote:
3. Highlight and hit F3 and the code is run
interactively in unix.
Okay, what's going on here? You have a Windows box (presumably in
front of you) and a Unix box somewhere on the network. And hitting F1
runs it on the Windows
datasets.
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PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R
Hi,
One other point.
The connection I have with mutiple servers is persistent the windows SAS
executable is is constant contact with all the SAS server executables.
Also I can submit a job where unix code is interspersed with windows code.
I do execute R and perl from SAS using pipes
think all the suggestions so far have been 'batch' execution on the
server.
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Hi,
I am using SSH
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On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Roger DeAngelis(xlr82sas)
rdean...@amgen.com wrote:
Hi,
You are absolutely correct about 32/64 and it appears to be a severe
penalty. But I think 32 to 32(win/unix) does not incur the penalty. There
are even more issues between mainframe and unix/windows. The
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Roger DeAngelis(xlr82sas)
rdean...@amgen.com wrote:
Hi,
This is not meant to be critical of R, but is intended as
a possible source for improvements to R.
SAS needs the competition.
I am reasonably knowledgeable about
R
SAS-(all products including IML
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demos of R on web servers.
Frank
Carlos Alzola wrote:
Good evening,
I have been asked to investigate the pros and cons of using SAS vs. R in a web
application. Either SAS or R would be the engine used to make some very simple
calculations and to produce graphs, preferably in png format
Good evening,
I have been asked to investigate the pros and cons of using SAS vs. R in a web
application. Either SAS or R would be the engine used to make some very simple
calculations and to produce graphs, preferably in png format.
The advantages of R are pretty obvious as there would
You would normally have R or SAS run on the server, not on the client machine so
whether it opens a window or not makes no difference. The window is not on the
client's machine anyways. The client only has a browser.
From within R see ?Rscript and ?system
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Wensui Liu wrote:
while I move data between SAS and R all the time, personally I don't
think your recommendation is very practical. Instead, I feel SAS
transport file is much better than csv.
Plus, the sas dataset created on unix can't be opened by sas viewer on
windows. It is even undoable
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 11:21 -0600, Frank E Harrell Jr wrote:
Wensui Liu wrote:
while I move data between SAS and R all the time, personally I don't
think your recommendation is very practical. Instead, I feel SAS
transport file is much better than csv.
Plus, the sas dataset created
Marc Schwartz wrote:
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 11:21 -0600, Frank E Harrell Jr wrote:
Wensui Liu wrote:
while I move data between SAS and R all the time, personally I don't
think your recommendation is very practical. Instead, I feel SAS
transport file is much better than csv.
Plus, the sas
Hi there,
the attached R function uses the SAS Integrated Object
Model (IOM) and it can deal with SAS dates and long
variable names. All you need to provide is the folder
where the SAS data file is and the data file name
without the extension. The function requires the rcom
package
Hi all,
if you do not have a SAS license but want to convert
native SAS data files, the solution below will work.
# read SAS data without SAS
# 1. Download free SAS System Viewer from either of
the sites below:
#
http://www.sas.com/apps/demosdownloads/setupcat.jsp?cat=SAS+System+Viewer
while I move data between SAS and R all the time, personally I don't
think your recommendation is very practical. Instead, I feel SAS
transport file is much better than csv.
Plus, the sas dataset created on unix can't be opened by sas viewer on
windows. It is even undoable if the dataset is large
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