Re: [R] anova(lme.model)

2010-11-07 Thread Bert Gunter
Doug Bates's comments on the issue. -- Bert On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Mike Marchywka wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:45:26 -0700 >> From: gunter.ber...@gene.com >> To: sibylle.stoec...@gmx.ch >> CC: r-help@r-project.org >> Subject: Re: [R] anova(

Re: [R] anova(lme.model)

2010-11-06 Thread Ben Bolker
Mike Marchywka hotmail.com> writes: > > > > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:45:26 -0700 > > From: gunter.berton gene.com > > To: sibylle.stoeckli gmx.ch > > CC: r-help r-project.org > > Subject: Re: [R] anova(lme.model) > > > > Sounds to me lik

Re: [R] anova(lme.model)

2010-11-06 Thread Mike Marchywka
> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:45:26 -0700 > From: gunter.ber...@gene.com > To: sibylle.stoec...@gmx.ch > CC: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] anova(lme.model) > > Sounds to me like you should really be seeking help from your local > statistician, not this list. W

Re: [R] anova(lme.model)

2010-11-06 Thread Bert Gunter
Sounds to me like you should really be seeking help from your local statistician, not this list. What you request probably cannot be done. What is wrong with what you get from lme, whose results seem fairly clear whether the P values are accurate or not? Cheers, Bert On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 4

[R] anova(lme.model)

2010-11-06 Thread Sibylle Stöckli
Dear R users Topic: Linear effect model fitting using the nlme package (recomended by Pinheiro et al. 2008 for unbalanced data set). The R help provides much info about the controversy to use the anova(lme.model) function to present numerator df and F values. Additionally different p-values ca