Re: [R] Type II and III sums of squares with Error in AOV

2005-11-09 Thread Γιάννης Δημάκος
On Wed, November 9, 2005 14:38, Peter Dalgaard wrote: > Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> A multistratum aov() fit is just a list of aov() fits, so you can apply >> functions such as Anova to the individual strata. >> >> However, why do you want types II and III sums of squares? I

Re: [R] Type II and III sums of squares with Error in AOV

2005-11-09 Thread Jarrett Byrnes
While my original design was balanced, I lost several replicates due to a storm, making the whole thing unbalanced. Ah, the realities of ecology. So, how does one look at individual strata, and then how would one report an aggregate test of the effect in general? On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:38 AM, P

Re: [R] Type II and III sums of squares with Error in AOV

2005-11-09 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A multistratum aov() fit is just a list of aov() fits, so you can apply > functions such as Anova to the individual strata. > > However, why do you want types II and III sums of squares? It is usual > to do this type of analysis only with balance

Re: [R] Type II and III sums of squares with Error in AOV

2005-11-09 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
A multistratum aov() fit is just a list of aov() fits, so you can apply functions such as Anova to the individual strata. However, why do you want types II and III sums of squares? It is usual to do this type of analysis only with balanced designs. In the cases I can envisage that these make

[R] Type II and III sums of squares with Error in AOV

2005-11-08 Thread Jarrett Byrnes
I've recently run into the problem of using aov with nested factors, and wanting to get the type II and III sums of squares. Normally Anova from the car package would do fine, but it doesn't like having an Error included, so my.aov <-aov(Response ~ Treatment + Error(Treatment:Replicate)) Anova