G'day Kaltja,
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:19:00 +0300 (EEST)
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> [...] I did not even now there was R wiki. I couldn't find a link
> from the R organization pages to it or am I just blind?
If you talk about CRAN (e.g. http://cran.r-project.org/) then no, but
if you really talk
> I think we occasionally think that it is very easy to get information
> because we know how to find the information. This does not mean that other
> people know how to find the answer. It is for this reason that questions
> appear on the listserver that we might think could be easily found from
>
On 3/30/2007 5:05 PM, Peter Dalgaard wrote:
> Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
>> On 3/30/07, Sarah Goslee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/30/07, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> I was just looking at this page, and it makes me curio
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Peter Dalgaard wrote:
> Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> > On 3/30/07, Sarah Goslee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/30/07, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> >>>
> I was just looking at this page, and it makes me curious: what
Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> On 3/30/07, Sarah Goslee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 3/30/07, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
>>>
I was just looking at this page, and it makes me curious: what gives
anyone the right to take someone
On a related note, one might be interested in checking out citizendium
which is spin off wikipedia but 1) has more stringent identity
verification and 2) uses a two-tier system of editors and authors. See
http://www.citizendium.org/cfa.html.
Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> On 3/30/07, Sarah Goslee <
On 3/30/07, Sarah Goslee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/30/07, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> > >
> > > I was just looking at this page, and it makes me curious: what gives
> > > anyone the right to take someone else's mailing list post and include
> > >
> Under US law (the only one I'm familiar with), the author of a mailing list
> post or any other written work _automatically holds copyright_ to that
> post (although not to the ideas contained therein, but to that particular
> description of the ideas).
That's true in almost any country - see th
On 3/30/07, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
> >
> > I was just looking at this page, and it makes me curious: what gives
> > anyone the right to take someone else's mailing list post and include
> > that in a Wiki?
> >
> Thinks there were posted to public mailin
Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
>
> I was just looking at this page, and it makes me curious: what gives
> anyone the right to take someone else's mailing list post and include
> that in a Wiki?
>
Thinks there were posted to public mailing lists are freely
copied and distributed. It's a scary thought; I m
On 3/30/07, Dieter Menne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ben Bolker zoo.ufl.edu> writes:
>
> > Well, we do have an R wiki -- http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php --
> > although it is not as active as I'd like. (We got stuck halfway through
> > porting Paul Johnson's "R Tips" to it ...) Plea
> If entering a new page is really the way to ask a question, then you
> should write this on the front page, and as a possible way to contribute
> on the getting-started page. It would also be a good idea to tell
> people like me how to find those questions. ("Recent Edits" seems a
> little too b
On 3/30/07, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Philippe Grosjean wrote:
> >
> > As other have pointed out, the main reason for the lack of success
> > of the R Wiki is that the mailing lists, particularly R-Help, are
> > sooo successful. However, I continue to consider that the mailing
>
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
> Philippe Grosjean wrote:
>
>> As other have pointed out, the main reason for the lack of success
>> of the R Wiki is that the mailing lists, particularly R-Help, are
>> sooo successful. However, I continue to consider that the mailing
>> list is suboptimal in two cas
Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>
>> This works when there's a decent documentation for the function.
>> The functions in the tcltk package, for example, are horribly
>> undocumented, and asking for help only loops to a general
>> help about all (and none) of the functions.
>
> I don't remember if you've s
Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>
>> This works when there's a decent documentation for the function.
>> The functions in the tcltk package, for example, are horribly
>> undocumented, and asking for help only loops to a general
>> help about all (and none) of the functions.
>
> I don't remember if you've s
On 3/30/2007 9:16 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
> Romain Francois wrote:
>>
>>> Say I don't know (and I can't understand the help) how to
>>> use the rnorm function. If I do RSiteSearch("rnorm"), I
>>> will get too much useless information. OTOH, an ideal wikipedia
>>> would have a page http://www.r-
Romain Francois wrote:
>
>> Say I don't know (and I can't understand the help) how to
>> use the rnorm function. If I do RSiteSearch("rnorm"), I
>> will get too much useless information. OTOH, an ideal wikipedia
>> would have a page http://www.r-wiki.org/rnorm, where I could
>> find examples, learn
> >
> > I once tried:
> >
> > http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=guides:lmer-tests
> >
> > but I don't think I will do this again on the existing Wiki. I am a frequent
> > Wikipedia-Writer, so I know how it works, but this was discouraging.
> >
> > 1) The structure of the Wiki was and is s
Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>
> But the wiki doesn't offer a way to ask questions. I'd be just as
> happy to answer questions there as here, but there are none there to
> answer
> (and the advice there is to ask questions here).
>
> I don't know how to organize a wiki to make it easy to ask and
>
On 3/30/2007 7:34 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
> Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>>
>> But the wiki doesn't offer a way to ask questions. I'd be just as
>> happy to answer questions there as here, but there are none there to
>> answer
>> (and the advice there is to ask questions here).
>>
>> I don't kno
Philippe Grosjean wrote:
>
> As other have pointed out, the main reason for the lack of success
> of the R Wiki is that the mailing lists, particularly R-Help, are
> sooo successful. However, I continue to consider that the mailing
> list is suboptimal in two cases: (1) when text is not enough
On 3/30/2007 5:27 AM, Philippe Grosjean wrote:
>
> Bert Gunter wrote:
>> Question:
>>
>> Many (perhaps most?) questions on the list are easily answerable simply by
>> checking existing R Docs (Help file/man pages, Intro to R, etc.). Why would
>> a Wiki be more effective in deflecting such question
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> To: Ben Bolker
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Ben Bolker zoo.ufl.edu> writes:
> Well, we do have an R wiki -- http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php --
> although it is not as active as I'd like. (We got stuck halfway through
> porting Paul Johnson's "R Tips" to it ...) Please contribute!
I once tried:
http://wiki.r-project.org/rwik
I think we occasionally think that it is very easy to get information because
we know how to find the information. This does not mean that other people know
how to find the answer. It is for this reason that questions appear on the
listserver that we might think could be easily found from other
> Many (perhaps most?) questions on the list are easily answerable simply by
> checking existing R Docs (Help file/man pages, Intro to R, etc.). Why would
> a Wiki be more effective in deflecting such questions from the mailing list
> than them? Why would too helpful R experts be more inclined to r
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To: Ben Bolker
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Subject: Re: [R] Wikibooks
Ben Bolker wrote:
> Alberto Monteiro centroin.com.br> writes:
>
>> As a big fan of Wikipedia, it'
I think sometime ago someone suggested that we append a
comments/discussion/wiki section to the end of every R functions' help
page that is editable by everyday users.
In other words, every R function help page has a fixed component that
has met R-core's approval and a clearly marked and more f
Ben Bolker wrote:
> Alberto Monteiro centroin.com.br> writes:
>
>> As a big fan of Wikipedia, it's frustrating to see how little there is about
>> R in the correlated project, the Wikibooks:
>>
>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/R_Programming
>>
>> Alberto Monteiro
>>
>
> Well, we do have an R w
Alberto Monteiro centroin.com.br> writes:
>
> As a big fan of Wikipedia, it's frustrating to see how little there is about
> R in the correlated project, the Wikibooks:
>
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/R_Programming
>
> Alberto Monteiro
>
Well, we do have an R wiki -- http://wiki.r-projec
As a big fan of Wikipedia, it's frustrating to see how little there is about
R in the correlated project, the Wikibooks:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/R_Programming
Alberto Monteiro
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