[R] lme v. aov?

2003-11-27 Thread John Christie
I am trying to understand better an analysis mean RT in various conditions in a within subjects design with the overall mean RT / subject as one of the factors. LME seems to be the right way to do this. using something like m- lme(rt~ a *b *subjectRT, random= ~1|subject) and then anova(m,type

Re: [R] lme v. aov?

2003-11-27 Thread Spencer Graves
Do you want to make inference about the specific subjects in your study? If yes, the subjects are a fixed effect. If instead you want to make inference about the societal processes that will generate the subjects you will get in the future, that is a random effect. The function lme

Re: [R] lme v. aov?

2003-11-27 Thread John Christie
Its not so much that I wasn't getting the difference between fixed and random effects. Although, I do like the way you put the comment below. For my purposes subject is a random effect. It was more on correct notation in lme with repeated measures designs (my a and b are repeated while the