Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-20 Thread Michael A. Miller
> "COMTE" == COMTE Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know it isn't the best way to represent data, but people > are sometimes more interested by the look and feel than by > the accuracy of the results... If they aren't intersted in the results, why not just print some rand

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-20 Thread Stuart Leask
> On 19-Apr-06 Peter Ehlers wrote: >> This discussion of 3-d pie charts comes at an opportune time. I have >> just formulated a new theory of graphical information transfer which >> is particularly simple in the case of 3-d pie charts. >> >> Let theta denote the angle between the normal to the pie

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-20 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Rolf Turner wrote: > > People really ***should not*** be encouraged or abetted in > wrong-headedness. Excel is terrible. Pie charts are terrible. > Don't mess with them. Period. > Now I realise the opportunity I missed on April 1st, when I was going to try and (anonymously) post the most

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-20 Thread COMTE Guillaume
21:14 À : Rolf Turner Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; COMTE Guillaume; r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Objet : Re: [R] 3D pie Rolf Turner wrote: > Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > >>Since everyone else wimped out with a tedious you-do-not-want-to-do-that, >>here is a solution that uses R to contr

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-20 Thread Ted Harding
On 19-Apr-06 Peter Ehlers wrote: > This discussion of 3-d pie charts comes at an opportune time. I have > just formulated a new theory of graphical information transfer which > is particularly simple in the case of 3-d pie charts. > > Let theta denote the angle between the normal to the pie cylind

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-19 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 4/19/06, Frank E Harrell Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rolf Turner wrote: > > Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > > > > >>Since everyone else wimped out with a tedious you-do-not-want-to-do-that, > >>here is a solution that uses R to control Excel and create a 3d chart. > > > > . > > . > >

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-19 Thread Peter Ehlers
This discussion of 3-d pie charts comes at an opportune time. I have just formulated a new theory of graphical information transfer which is particularly simple in the case of 3-d pie charts. Let theta denote the angle between the normal to the pie cylinder and the pie-eyed line (connecting eye an

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-19 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
Rolf Turner wrote: > Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > >>Since everyone else wimped out with a tedious you-do-not-want-to-do-that, >>here is a solution that uses R to control Excel and create a 3d chart. > > . > . > . > > People really ***should not*** be encouraged or abetted in > wron

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-19 Thread Rolf Turner
Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > Since everyone else wimped out with a tedious you-do-not-want-to-do-that, > here is a solution that uses R to control Excel and create a 3d chart. . . . People really ***should not*** be encouraged or abetted in wrong-headedness. Excel is terrible. Pie c

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-19 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Since everyone else wimped out with a tedious you-do-not-want-to-do-that, here is a solution that uses R to control Excel and create a 3d chart. You will need the RDCOMclient package that you can find via google. library(RDCOMClient) xl <- COMCreate("Excel.Application") # starts up Excel xl[["V

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-19 Thread Berton Gunter
.math.ethz.ch; Patrick Burns > Subject: Re: [R] 3D pie > > >>>>> "PatBurns" == Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> on Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:09:25 +0100 writes: > > PatBurns> You can see my opinion of 3D piecharts at >

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-19 Thread Martin Maechler
> "PatBurns" == Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:09:25 +0100 writes: PatBurns> You can see my opinion of 3D piecharts at PatBurns> http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Tutor/spreadsheet_addiction.html PatBurns> Patrick Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 (0)20

Re: [R] 3D pie

2006-04-18 Thread Patrick Burns
You can see my opinion of 3D piecharts at http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Tutor/spreadsheet_addiction.html Patrick Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 (0)20 8525 0696 http://www.burns-stat.com (home of S Poetry and "A Guide for the Unwilling S User") COMTE Guillaume wrote: >Hi all, > > > >Is there a w

Re: [R] 3D pie

2003-08-18 Thread Roger Koenker
R-help Readers might also find amusing the new Tufte paper: "The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint", available from www.edwardtufte.com. (This is a non-commercial announcement.) url:www.econ.uiuc.edu/~roger/my.htmlRoger Koenker email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department o

Re: [R] 3D pie

2003-08-18 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 06:58, Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:18:10 +0200 > Klaus-Peter Pleissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > is there a function for 3D pie representation in R ? > > > > Thanks > > Klaus-P. > > I hope not. See Edward Tufte's writings on ch

Re: [R] 3D pie

2003-08-18 Thread Rolf Turner
Klaus-Peter Pleissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there a function for 3D pie representation in R ? I certainly hope not!!! (1) ``Given their low data density and failure to order numbers along a visual dimension, pie charts should never be used.'' (Tuffte, Edward R., ``The Visual Display o

Re: [R] 3D pie

2003-08-18 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:18:10 +0200 Klaus-Peter Pleissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > is there a function for 3D pie representation in R ? > > Thanks > Klaus-P. I hope not. See Edward Tufte's writings on chartjunk. Frank > > > -- > Dr. Klaus-Peter Pleissner > Max Planck Institu