Re: [R-sig-eco] Nested Permanova with repeated measures

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Moquin
Wow- Thank you so much for this!!- I do however have a little confusion on this part- which is well ,most of it (-: "If you want to include all weeks and examine the between-subjects effects, then you need to use betadisper() to get the centroid across all 11 weeks for each microcosm. " I do ind

Re: [R-sig-eco] Nested Permanova with repeated measures

2015-03-17 Thread Steve Brewer
Paul, As I think you've figured out, you can't use nested permanova when you have blocks. It is not clear to me why you would have mesocosm included as an effect in the model. My understanding is that you have a randomized block design with no "repetitions" of treatment by block combinations. Henc

[R-sig-eco] Nested Permanova with repeated measures

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Moquin
Hi Stephen and all Permanoverts! Thank you for posting your thoughts about repeated measure Permanova. I am following your methods (From Feb 25 2013- posted below) where you use adonis for the time and time by treatment interaction and , in a seperate step, the BiodiversityR for the main effect. W

Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Barbara Baraibar Padro
Dear Roman, Sara and Phil, Thanks so much for your help!! After some playing around with your different options, I got the graph I was looking for (attached). I wasn't using the right words to look for help. Thanks a lot!! Barbara - Original Message - From: "Roman Luštrik" To: "B

Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Luštrik
After clicking send I remembered that you might want to scale circle sizes according to their area, not radius (which is the default to draw). Then I went to see the link Sarah posted and it deals with this, too (great minds think alike? :) ). Cheers, Roman On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Roman

Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Sarah Goslee
Hi Barbara, You don't provide a reproducible example or even tell us what package/function you used to create your NMDS ordination, but you can extract the coordinates, and use them plus your cover values to create a bubble plot in several different ways, including symbols(), the pch argument to b

Re: [R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Luštrik
Assuming you're working with metaMDS from vegan, it's trivial to extract NMDS scores, add some variable and plot the data. The following code would be easy to translate into a generic function. library(vegan) data(dune) sol <- metaMDS(dune) # add some variable that will correspond to size of poi

[R-sig-eco] Plot NMDS with size of the points related to abundance

2015-03-17 Thread Barbara Baraibar Padro
Hello list, I am analyzing species composition of weeds in 12 cover crop treatments and a fallow plot. I have been using nmds and got good results and no problems with it (although after some fighting!). My data is a matrix of biomass values sorted by species. Now I'd like to know which of my s