Re: [R-sig-Geo] GRTS sampling - 2-level design

2021-10-11 Thread Thierry Onkelinx via R-sig-Geo
Dear John, A real life example is available at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.2784012. The idea is that the database returns a randomised set of points. You need to overlay these points with your sampling framework. The final sample is the set of points with the lowest ranking. The grtsdb package

Re: [R-sig-Geo] GRTS sampling - 2-level design

2021-10-08 Thread John Wilson
Dear Thierry, Thank you so much for your reply. Yes, the loss of the spatial balance once the two-tiered approach is not accounted for was what was worrying me. The incorporation of region as a random effect has two issues - 1) the overall sampling area is a lake, and "regions" don't make sense i

Re: [R-sig-Geo] GRTS sampling - 2-level design

2021-10-08 Thread Thierry Onkelinx via R-sig-Geo
Dear John, Your procedure will create a spatially balanced level 1 sample (10 "regions") and within those regions a spatially balanced level 2 sample. When you ignore the structure, there is no longer a spatial balance. So you'll need to incorporate the two level sampling structure in your analysi

Re: [R-sig-Geo] GRTS sampling - 2-level design

2021-10-07 Thread Roger Bivand via R-sig-Geo
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021, John Wilson wrote: Oh, sorry - I normally use the grts() function from the spsurvey package. My hacky approach was to make 10 balanced points with grts(), followed by imposing a 5 km buffer around each one, and either systematic sampling within the buffer circle, or running a

Re: [R-sig-Geo] GRTS sampling - 2-level design

2021-10-07 Thread John Wilson
Oh, sorry - I normally use the grts() function from the spsurvey package. My hacky approach was to make 10 balanced points with grts(), followed by imposing a 5 km buffer around each one, and either systematic sampling within the buffer circle, or running a separate GRTS for the 5 points within eac

Re: [R-sig-Geo] GRTS sampling - 2-level design

2021-10-07 Thread Roger Bivand
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021, John Wilson wrote: Hi everyone, I'm working on a sampling design using GRTS, but I'm running into a logistics problem. The field crew can set 5 nets per day, but only within a 5 km stretch, due to travel time constraints. With 10 sampling days, that's a total of 50 sites. Th

[R-sig-Geo] GRTS sampling - 2-level design

2021-10-07 Thread John Wilson
Hi everyone, I'm working on a sampling design using GRTS, but I'm running into a logistics problem. The field crew can set 5 nets per day, but only within a 5 km stretch, due to travel time constraints. With 10 sampling days, that's a total of 50 sites. The overall sampling area is huge, so runnin