[R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation

2009-10-12 Thread Carson, John
I have found anomalous behavior in gstat's variogram estimation. I have listed 3 example variograms below for small data sets. In order to better estimate the nugget effect, I slightly perturbed the locations (by 1 foot increments) of duplicate results. The empirical variograms are given

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation

2009-10-12 Thread ONKELINX, Thierry
- Van: r-sig-geo-boun...@stat.math.ethz.ch [mailto:r-sig-geo-boun...@stat.math.ethz.ch] Namens Carson, John Verzonden: maandag 12 oktober 2009 15:35 Aan: r-sig-geo@stat.math.ethz.ch Onderwerp: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation I have found anomalous behavior in gstat's variogram

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation

2009-10-12 Thread Edzer Pebesma
John, thanks for sharing this with r-sig-geo. As Thierry mentioned, the default model fitting procedure (fit.variogram in package gstat) uses weighted least squares, with weights proportional to N_h/(h^2). This explains why the first lag gets so much weight. For pure nugget models, this of

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Hiemstra
Edzer Pebesma wrote: John, thanks for sharing this with r-sig-geo. As Thierry mentioned, the default model fitting procedure (fit.variogram in package gstat) uses weighted least squares, with weights proportional to N_h/(h^2). This explains why the first lag gets so much weight. For pure

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation

2009-10-12 Thread Carson, John
: ONKELINX, Thierry [mailto:thierry.onkel...@inbo.be] Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:23 AM To: Carson, John; r-sig-geo@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: RE: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation Dear John, Isn't your problem rather a result from the unstable empirical variograms? Mainly due

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation

2009-10-12 Thread Carson, John
://www.shawgrp.com/ Shaw(tm) a world of Solutions(tm) -Original Message- From: Edzer Pebesma [mailto:edzer.pebe...@uni-muenster.de] Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:38 AM To: Carson, John Cc: r-sig-geo@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Problem with gstat variogram estimation John