Re: [R-SIG-Mac] learning R

2010-12-11 Thread Berend Hasselman
On 10-12-2010, at 22:25, Rolf Turner wrote: > > I agree with you completely about ``begging the question''. The > nearly universal misuse of this expression drives me crazy. I'm > not so sure about ``steep learning curve'' however. My impression > is that this phrase has *always* been used to

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] learning R

2010-12-11 Thread Christophe Dutang
There are many levels of knowledge/skills of R, the first levels are quick to do. But next levels are harder to pass. I will say in a sentence that R is easy to learn but difficult to master, which applies to many things (danse, music, sport, ...)! Christophe -- Christophe Dutang Ph.D. student

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] learning R

2010-12-11 Thread baptiste auguie
On 11 December 2010 13:54, Pfister wrote: > So a "steep" learning curve implies "easy to learn" Shouldn't that be "quick to learn"? My own experience with R would suggest that easy and quick are not always synonymous (eureka moment). I tend to think the R learning curve qualifies as steep becaus

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] learning R

2010-12-11 Thread Pfister
As Carl said, a learning curve plots performance (knowledge) as a function of time, at least that is how it has been used in psychology and the learning sciences for a hundred years. So a "steep" learning curve implies "easy to learn" but the metaphor of being "steep" = "hard to climb" = "