gt; > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Sarah Hardy [mailto:sarah.ha...@maine.edu]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:08 PM
> > >> To: John Fox
> > >> Cc: Simon Urbanek; David Winsemius; r-sig-mac
> > >&g
Dear Berend,
> -Original Message-
> From: Berend Hasselman [mailto:b...@xs4all.nl]
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:24 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: 'Prof Brian Ripley'; r-sig-mac@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 a
00
>>> Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>>>> On 20/09/2013 01:52, John Fox wrote:
>>>>> Dear Sarah,
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Sarah Hardy [mailto:sarah.ha...@maine.edu]
>>>>>> Sent:
ge-
> From: Prof Brian Ripley [mailto:rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk]
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:37 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: 'r-sig-mac'
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 and a
> Mac 10.6.8
>
> On 20/09/2013 12:54, John Fox wrote:
&
Dear flip,
> -Original Message-
> From: Flip Phillips [mailto:f...@skidmore.edu]
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:41 AM
> To: r-sig-mac@r-project.org; rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk; j...@mcmaster.ca
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 and
Ouch.
I keep forgetting how sophisticated the users of Windows are.
On Sep 20, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Prof Brian Ripley
mailto:rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
Almost all of the problems people have with the Rcmdr package are on the Mac OS
X platform, and since most of these people are not sophisti
Fox
Cc: Simon Urbanek; David Winsemius; r-sig-mac
Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 and a
Mac 10.6.8
Running the "Software Update" and reinstalling R and Rcmdr worked for
the student with the 10.7.2. We did not reinstall XQuartz. Now I will
I'm glad t
19, 2013 8:08 PM
> >> To: John Fox
> >> Cc: Simon Urbanek; David Winsemius; r-sig-mac
> >> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 and a
> >> Mac 10.6.8
> >>
> >> Running the "Software Update" and reinstalling R a
On 20-09-2013, at 11:29, peter dalgaard wrote:
>
> On Sep 20, 2013, at 08:49 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I am not so sure about that. It will do no harm running CRAN binary R. But
>> it does mean that there are multiple versions of X11 things about and that
>> will cause problems
peter dalgaard writes:
> On Sep 20, 2013, at 08:49 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I am not so sure about that. It will do no harm running CRAN binary
>> R. But it does mean that there are multiple versions of X11 things
>> about and that will cause problems for other things (including
>
On Sep 20, 2013, at 08:49 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>>
>
> I am not so sure about that. It will do no harm running CRAN binary R. But
> it does mean that there are multiple versions of X11 things about and that
> will cause problems for other things (including possibly installing packages
project.org]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:49 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: 'David Winsemius'; 'Sarah Hardy'; 'r-sig-mac'
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2
and a
> Mac 10.6.8
Dear Sarah,
> -Original Message-
> From: Sarah Hardy [mailto:sarah.ha...@maine.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:08 PM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: Simon Urbanek; David Winsemius; r-sig-mac
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 and a
> Ma
; - snip -
>
> There's no need to respond again if you think these instructions are OK.
>
> Thanks again,
> John
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Urbanek [mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, Septe
the
>> targets we support (although so far they do). Finally, XQuartz will act
>> as system X11 but not vice-versa, so it's much safer to use the system
>> X11 location as it supports more setups.
>>
>> FWIW: I think this whole discuss
-Original Message-
>> From: Simon Urbanek [mailto:urba...@research.att.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:25 AM
>> To: John Fox
>> Cc: David Winsemius; Sarah Hardy; r-sig-mac
>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 and a
&g
f you think these instructions are OK.
Thanks again,
John
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Urbanek [mailto:simon.urba...@r-project.org]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:49 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: 'David Winsemius'; 'Sarah Hardy'; 'r-sig-mac'
> S
libraries use by R -
> >> these are two entirely separate things (server vs client). Also XQuartz
> >> was really a development project, so it didn't seem like a good idea to
> >> require it - in particular since we would ask people to install
> >> parallel X11 imple
safer to use the system
> X11 location as it supports more setups.
>
> FWIW: I think this whole discussion is getting off the original topic:
> if you don't keep your system up to date, nothing is guaranteed to work
> - it has nothing to do with X11, it affects all system li
ohn
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Urbanek [mailto:urba...@research.att.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:25 AM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: David Winsemius; Sarah Hardy; r-sig-mac
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems loading Rcmdr on a Mac 10.7.2 and a
> Mac 10.6.8
&
On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:05 AM, John Fox wrote:
> Dear David,
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:04:18 -0700
> David Winsemius wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:47 PM, John Fox wrote:
>>
>
> . . .
>
>>> It also seems apparent from the error message that there's a mismatch
>>> between the version of T
Dear David,
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:04:18 -0700
David Winsemius wrote:
>
> On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:47 PM, John Fox wrote:
>
. . .
> > It also seems apparent from the error message that there's a mismatch
> > between the version of Tcl/Tk, presumably the one supplied with the R
> > distributio
On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:04 AM, David Winsemius wrote:
>
> On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:47 PM, John Fox wrote:
>
>> Dear Sarah,
>>
>> It seems likely from the message that you reported that the problem isn't
>> directly related to the Rcmdr package, but rather to the tcltk package on
>> which the Rcmdr
Sarah,
note that 10.7.2 is way old - there have been many patch releases since then so
first thing I'd suggest is to run Software Update. XQuartz doesn't remove
system X11 if installed, so it's not necessarily relevant (it depends on the
local setup) - OS updates may be more important here. But
On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:47 PM, John Fox wrote:
> Dear Sarah,
>
> It seems likely from the message that you reported that the problem isn't
> directly related to the Rcmdr package, but rather to the tcltk package on
> which the Rcmdr depends. Your student (and the other students who are
> experi
Dear Sarah,
It seems likely from the message that you reported that the problem isn't
directly related to the Rcmdr package, but rather to the tcltk package on which
the Rcmdr depends. Your student (and the other students who are experiencing
problems) can verify this by trying to load the tclt
I myself am not a Mac user, but I have about 6 students with Macs all
having the same (or similar) problem loading Rcmdr 2.0.1 on their Mac (but
have successfully installed R 3.0.1).
One student has a Mac 10.7.2. I know he installed XQuartz-2.7.4.dmg and
then completely logged out and back in.
Bef
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