Re: [R-sig-phylo] simulating continuous data

2016-05-10 Thread Theodore Garland Jr
If you are trying to mimic real data, then perhaps you have some fossil data to go on? If not, then you can try to pick a "reasonable" value based on other biological knowledge. Check the Garland et al. (1993) for how we did it. Cheers, Ted From: Bryan McLean [bryansmcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tu

Re: [R-sig-phylo] simulating continuous data

2016-05-10 Thread Bryan McLean
Thanks Joe and Ted, By similar scaling, I just meant (as Ted guessed) that the root value depends on the empirical trait data, and does not start at 0 or 1, e.g., and thus produces simulated values that can be directly compared to the true data. Under a Brownian model, the mean trait value is s

Re: [R-sig-phylo] simulating continuous data

2016-05-10 Thread Theodore Garland Jr
This is a good point and one that is often glossed over. We talked about it quite a bit here: Garland, T., Jr., A. W. Dickerman, C. M. Janis, and J. A. Jones. 1993. Phylogenetic analysis of covariance by computer simulation. Systematic Biology 42:265–292. http://www.biology.ucr.edu/people/facult

Re: [R-sig-phylo] simulating continuous data

2016-05-10 Thread Joe Felsenstein
Bryan McLean -- > I’m working to simulate multiple continuous characters on a known > phylogeny (using several of the standard models), and I want to compare > properties of the simulated datasets to an empirical dataset. My question > is: what is the standard method for ensuring that those datas

[R-sig-phylo] simulating continuous data

2016-05-10 Thread Bryan McLean
Hi list, I’m working to simulate multiple continuous characters on a known phylogeny (using several of the standard models), and I want to compare properties of the simulated datasets to an empirical dataset. My question is: what is the standard method for ensuring that those datasets (simulate