I'm totally interested, but in Sydney.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM, <rails-oceania+nore...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bnore...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania/topics > > - RubyConf Oceania - Expression of > Interest<#1291aae18027376a_group_thread_0>[23 Updates] > - [JOB] Contracting Opportunities <#1291aae18027376a_group_thread_1> [1 > Update] > - RailsConf <#1291aae18027376a_group_thread_2> [1 Update] > > Topic: RubyConf Oceania - Expression of > Interest<http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania/t/7e0b72fae83f7d4a> > > Luke Chadwick <luke.a.chadw...@gmail.com> Jun 09 10:48AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Hey Everyone, > I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup, > that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I find > this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation. > > I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there is > interest in actually seeing it happen. > > To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend a > RubyConf in Sydney? > > Regards, > > Luke > > > > > Keith Pitt <m...@keithpitt.com> Jun 09 10:26AM +0930 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > *raises hand* > > -- > *Keith Pitt* > Web: http://www.keithpitt.com > Twitter: @keithpitt > Skype: keithpitt > Phone: +61 432 713 987 > > > > > Julio Cesar Ody <julio...@gmail.com> Jun 09 10:57AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > My suggestion: create a poll/form on Wufoo and send the link around. > > For instance, I'd go depending on a number of factors, such as > location, time of the year, number of participants, and who's giving > talks. > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick > > -- > http://crazyhollywood.org > > > > > Ben Schwarz <ben.schw...@gmail.com> Jun 09 10:59AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > I see no point in such an event. This has been discussed on a number of > occasions (maybe search the list). > Having said that, I don't have to come :) > > > > > Gareth Townsend <gareth.towns...@me.com> Jun 09 10:56AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > I would attend one in Melbourne! > > *dons flame retardant suit* > > > > On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > "Richard Forster" <rfors...@groupwise.swin.edu.au> Jun 09 10:59AM +1000 > ^ <#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > I'd be interested. > > Richard Forster > > >>> On 9/06/2010 at 10:56 AM, in message < > aanlktilxlcfdaxn_sdfujovmmuyw6mfdahl7pttug...@mail.gmail.com>, Keith > Pitt <m...@keithpitt.com> wrote: > > *raises hand* > > -- > Keith Pitt > Web: http://www.keithpitt.com > Twitter: @keithpitt > Skype: keithpitt > Phone: +61 432 713 987 > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Luke Chadwick < > luke.a.chadw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey Everyone, > I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup, > that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I find > this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation. > > I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there is > interest in actually seeing it happen. > > To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend a > RubyConf in Sydney? > > Regards, > > Luke > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>( > mailto: > > rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>). > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > > Andrew Grimm <andrew.j.gr...@gmail.com> Jun 09 11:03AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > At the talk last night, I think 90% +- 10% of people put up their hands > when > asked if they'd attend a conference. > > Andrew > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Richard Forster < > > > > > Luke Chadwick <luke.a.chadw...@gmail.com> Jun 09 11:02AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Your response is exactly why I picked a firm location of Sydney. I > have nothing against Melbourne, but I need to know whether you and > anyone else from Melbourne, Brisbane, etc would come here. If I'm to > start organizing the event it would need to be local so that I can do > the leg work. > > > > > > Luke Chadwick <luke.a.chadw...@gmail.com> Jun 09 11:09AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Hey Ben, > I did have a quick look through previous discussions before I > posted, and I believe that you had shown interest in the past (in > perhaps even organizing the event). I'm curious as to why you now > don't see a place for a formal conference with booked speakers, in > addition to Railscamps. > > Regards, > > Luke > > > > > > Jonathan Clarke <jonat...@beilabs.com> Jun 09 11:10AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Luke, > > +1 for me and I'd say that many others would come who are not from ruby > backgrounds. > > Regarding location, if you organize it, you set it to happen wherever > you > like; benefits of being an organizer. > > > > > > Ben Schwarz <ben.schw...@gmail.com> Jun 08 06:20PM -0700 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Personally I think that there are enough Ruby related happenings > locally and overseas to keep me satisfied. Its pretty much as simple > as that. > > I think logistically it would be very difficult to organise such an > event here in Australia. Overall, I'd estimate that you'd be able to > fill ~ 250—300 seats if you were to go on such an endeavor. > > The conference would have to consist of many international speakers, > as your local (AU) attendees would see the same local speakers at > every single ruby meetup. > This is a symptom of both the Melbourne and Sydney ruby groups—The > same people speak on a regular basis. > > Like I said, I don't have to come along, I'm not going to sit back and > say "it wont work, its stupid" because I think what you're doing is > awesome. A small percentage of people put back into the community, so > I'd like to wish you best of luck. If I can help, let me know. > > > > > Pat Allan <p...@freelancing-gods.com> Jun 09 11:28AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been > raised... I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those who've > heard > me go on about this before, but here's a few things to consider: > > * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference is > a level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely think > whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you need a > small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it together, but > conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures. > > * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted, > they're a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I think it's > still worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we > definitely don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid out. > > * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I > feel Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I > think it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or > NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality speakers. > Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and attendees. This is > not the cheap path, though. > > For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the last > few years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand > further on why if anyone's truly interested. > > * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world > already. Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us > don't get to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply > for those outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our > conference. > > * The previous point is important because a good part of the Australian > Ruby community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets and > Rails Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want to share > that with the world - but it's not going to be easy. > > > I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think > there's great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but > I'm also wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events > kinda covered already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should > this happen, I just think the target from the start should be to run > something a cut above normal. Hell, a cut above great. > > -- > Pat > e: p...@freelancing-gods.com || m: +614 1327 3337 > w: http://freelancing-gods.com || t: twitter.com/pat > bounce: http://trampolineday.com || skype: patallan > > On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > Eaden McKee <e...@eadz.co.nz> Jun 09 01:49PM +1200 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > I would come over from NZ. > > > > > Luke Chadwick <luke.a.chadw...@gmail.com> Jun 09 11:47AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Hey Pat, Ben, > Thanks for your input. I'm at least abstractly aware of what I'm > signing up for, and have had a hand in organizing large 1000+ people > church events before. > > I do feel that we should have a mix of both respected International > Speakers and Local Speakers, and that it should be an event not to be > missed. > > After I get this expression of interest, I will move forward with > organizing a team of people, and more importantly getting a feel for > exactly who/what/when/howmuch people are interested in. > > This is more just a 'Do you want me to bother starting to organize > that level of event' > > Regards, > > Luke > > > > > > Ryan Bigg <radarliste...@gmail.com> Jun 09 11:53AM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > I am interested in attending this, and maybe even helping out. As Pat > suggested, it's going to be a much different beast to organising a > Railscamp. > > It'd be great to finally have a conference-sized event down in > Australia > even just to try it out to see what it's like. > > > -- > Ryan Bigg / Radar > > > > > Andrew Grimm <andrew.j.gr...@gmail.com> Jun 09 12:05PM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > For the benefit of those who didn't fly to Sydney for RORO, > http://www.slideshare.net/agrimm/railscamp-lousy-tshirt-draft was the > NeoOffice slideshow that I gave last night (more or less). Conferences > are mentioned on page 11. The talk I gave at Railscamp itself is at > http://www.slideshare.net/agrimm/does-railscamp-scale > > Andrew > > > > > > Gareth Townsend <gareth.towns...@me.com> Jun 09 12:07PM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Just to clear things up, that was a yes. > > On 09/06/2010, at 11:02 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > Pat Allan <p...@freelancing-gods.com> Jun 09 12:08PM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > You didn't answer my question, though ;) > > Why do we need a conference? > > -- > Pat > > On 09/06/2010, at 11:47 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > Korny Sietsma <ko...@sietsma.com> Jun 09 12:09PM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Another point to ponder (that has also been raised before, but is worth > re-raising IMHO) - what technologies would such a conference cover? And > related to this, what would you call it? > > The "Rails" community now includes a lot of people who do very little > Ruby > on Rails - or even if they use it to pay the bills, it's not > necessarily > what makes them enthusiastic. It's a useful brand for the community, > and I > wouldn't consider renaming RailsCamp to anything else, but a conference > is a > bit different, as you want (presumably) to attract speakers and > attendees > from outside the core community. > > You could do a "Ruby" conference, but then would you include: > - Node.js / CoffeeScript / other neo-javascript stuff > - Mongodb / Couchdb / other NoSQL stuff > - Html5/Css3/Browser-land stuff > - Iphone / Ipad / Icrutch / Android / Other phone stuff > - Erlang / Clojure / Ioke / F# / Go / Other poly-language stuff > > I guess you could restrict it to Ruby/Rails - but I for one would love > a > conference that covers a bit more. > > Yow! is the closest fit we have, but it's kind of pricey for the > average > developer. (Still looks awesome - take a look at the speakers > http://yowaustralia.com.au/melbourne/speakers/index.html ) > > - Korny > > > -- > Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com > kornys on twitter/fb/gtalk/gwave www.sietsma.com/korny > "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part > that wonders what the part that isn't thinking > isn't thinking of" > > > > > Clifford Heath <clifford.he...@gmail.com> Jun 09 12:15PM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > I would attend one, but I'd recommend you investigate the cost of > attracting international speakers before you go too far. At one point, > RubyCentral was offering to help fund or to underwrite such an event, > so you could ask them. They'd at least have an idea of costs, even if > they aren't will to help pay them. > > Clifford Heath. > > On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > Luke Chadwick <luke.a.chadw...@gmail.com> Jun 09 12:22PM +1000 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > - Because there are plenty of people that can't justify the ~5k > minimum required to think about going to one overseas. > - Because It is important to provide people access to (some) the best > Rubyists in the world. > - Because there is no good reason why we shouldn't have one. > > > > > > Nicholas Faiz <nicholas.f...@gmail.com> Jun 08 07:39PM -0700 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > +1. > > The idea has been discussed in Melbourne quite a bit (as Ben Schwarz > said). In the interest of fairness and representing community, it > shouldn't default to being in Sydney without a discussion. I'd be > interested in an Oz conf. in general, though. > > > > > > Nicholas Faiz <nicholas.f...@gmail.com> Jun 08 07:46PM -0700 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Ah yes, the Melbourne/this discussion has occurred before argument has > been put well already. > > On the other hand, I went to RubyConf India recently, and could ask if > some of the people who organised that might have any tips for you. > Might be worth doing. I enjoyed it a great deal, but saw that the > conference was the result of many sleepless nights on the part of > those who put it together. > > Cheers, > N. > > > > > Topic: [JOB] Contracting > Opportunities<http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania/t/ff187bfb55b6326> > > Joshua <joshua.enspi...@gmail.com> Jun 08 03:20PM -0700 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Hi all, > > I'm a rails developer based in Wellington and have recently been > helping people get contract work in the IT/creative space. We have 17 > people scattered over NZ - mostly rails (8 devs) but also designers, > animators, illustrators and a few business and marketing consultants. > We also have some good html people to handle the slicing and dicing. > > I'm in Melbourne until the 19th and happy to meet up with anyone who > would like to hear more - jos...@enspiral.com - +64 21 684 495. > > We specialise in remote work opportunities and can work with > developers of all skill levels. You set your own rates and we do our > best to keep you busy. > > cheers, > Joshua > > > > Topic: > RailsConf<http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania/t/eb171fdee67304cf> > > Mikel Lindsaar <raasd...@gmail.com> Jun 07 11:02PM -0400 > ^<#1291aae18027376a_digest_top> > > Hi Caué, > > I am here at Rails Conf, I am talking on Thursday so you can meet me > there if you don't see me earlier :) > > Usually lurking in the speaker lounge, hacking or mingling. > > I don't know any other Australians or New Zealanders other than Koz and > Dr Nic. > > Mikel > > http://lindsaar.net/ > > On 07/06/2010, at 6:56 PM, Jared Fraser wrote: > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > -- Ronaldo da Silva Gomes Junior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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