Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-14 Thread Andrew Grimm
http://blog.txustice.me/2012/02/mutation-testing-with-mutant/ Rubinius' mutant is supposed to work with Ruby 1.9, but I haven't tried it. Andrew On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM, ben wiseley wrote: > interns? > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Iain Beeston > wrote: >> >> Does anyone know o

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-14 Thread ben wiseley
interns? On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Iain Beeston wrote: > Does anyone know of a mutation testing tool for ruby 1.9? > > > Iain > > > > On 14 May 2012 17:32, Clifford Heath wrote: > >> On 14/05/2012, at 4:34 PM, Iain Beeston wrote: >> > Sounds interesting though. But I don't think I could j

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-14 Thread Iain Beeston
Does anyone know of a mutation testing tool for ruby 1.9? Iain On 14 May 2012 17:32, Clifford Heath wrote: > On 14/05/2012, at 4:34 PM, Iain Beeston wrote: > > Sounds interesting though. But I don't think I could justify it in a > work environment unless it was really mission-critical code (

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-14 Thread Clifford Heath
On 14/05/2012, at 4:34 PM, Iain Beeston wrote: > Sounds interesting though. But I don't think I could justify it in a work > environment unless it was really mission-critical code (surely this would > break most people's tests left, right and centre?). Of course it does - that's the whole point.

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-13 Thread Iain Beeston
7 then 6. Sounds interesting though. But I don't think I could justify it in a work environment unless it was really mission-critical code (surely this would break most people's tests left, right and centre?). Iain On 14 May 2012 10:04, Craig Read wrote: > Like many others: 7 then 6. > > >

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-13 Thread Craig Read
Like many others: 7 then 6. On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Andrew Grimm wrote: > I'm kind of curious. (Really!) As someone who's keen on heckle, it > seems that not an awful lot of people use it. Why is this? > > 1. You don't do unit testing. You do all your unit testing in your head. > 2. You

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-13 Thread Ben Hoskings
I believe it parses the code using ParseTree, which doesn't work on 1.9. On 1.8, ParseTree could inspect loaded code to extract its AST; on 1.9, those hooks are gone, and you have to parse static code listings instead (which is what ruby_parser does). http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/04/no-parset

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-13 Thread Tim McGilchrist
>From my point of view it's reason 7 followed by 6. Everything I'm currently working on is 1.9. Is there something fundamental to 1.8 that prevents this gem being updated to 1.9? - Tim McGilchrist @lambda_foo http://github.com/tmcgilchrist O

Re: [rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-13 Thread Gregory McIntyre
I am working an inherited code base back up to 100% test coverage, where it should be, and then I will be using heckle. But maybe I should use heckle along the way? 100% is easy to achieve and maintain, and lets you refactor wildly and safely and it's basically essential for live code, in my world

[rails-oceania] Why don't you use heckle?

2012-05-13 Thread Andrew Grimm
I'm kind of curious. (Really!) As someone who's keen on heckle, it seems that not an awful lot of people use it. Why is this? 1. You don't do unit testing. You do all your unit testing in your head. 2. You aren't worried about the quality of your unit tests. You already know it's awesome / awful.