Re: How to talk to skeptics?

2022-12-21 Thread FC Stegerman
* "Bernhard M. Wiedemann via rb-general" [2022-12-14 20:30]: > a colleague of mine is rather skeptic towards bootstrapping and > reproducible-builds. > [...] > In the end, it would be useful to collect some well-worded / well-thought > counter-arguments on r-b.o (if we don't have that already) >

Re: How to talk to skeptics?

2022-12-21 Thread David A. Wheeler
I suggest writing a longer paper on "why reproducible builds" and posting it on the r-b website. Here are few quick points from me that might be helpful. In general, we should focus on risk.. but not just current risk, but future risk. It's absolutely *true* that unintentional vulnerabilities

Re: How to talk to skeptics?

2022-12-21 Thread Bernhard M. Wiedemann via rb-general
On 18/12/2022 02.09, Martin via rb-general wrote: Controlling hardware is essential https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5706 Covers the topic of why open-source hardware is not enough to build trustable devices. TLDR: there are ways to subvert silicon that cannot be detected, even

diffoscope 229 released 

2022-12-21 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi, The diffoscope maintainers are pleased to announce the release of version 229 of diffoscope. diffoscope tries to get to the bottom of what makes files or directories different. It will recursively unpack archives of many kinds and transform various binary formats into more human-readable