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Re: Debating Full Source Bootstrap

2023-11-14 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2023-11-14, aho...@0w.se wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:18:01AM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: >> On 2023-11-14, aho...@0w.se wrote: >> > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 06:19:31PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: >> >> The very thing the "Full-Source Bootstrap" builds is a C development >> >>

Debating Full Source Bootstrap

2023-11-14 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2023-11-14, aho...@0w.se wrote: > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 06:19:31PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: >> The very thing the "Full-Source Bootstrap" builds is a C development >> toolchain; that is arguably the whole point of the "Full-Source >> Bootstrap" ... to avoid starting with a C

Re: [bootstrappable] Re: diverse double-compilation

2023-11-14 Thread Andrius Štikonas via rb-general
2023 m. lapkričio 14 d., antradienis 11:32:58 GMT HW42 rašė: > I guess you are referring to using stage0-uefi and live-bootstrap here, > right? Or maybe there's also some Guix work on top of it that wasn't > described in the blog yet. I haven't followed the development that > closely or maybe I

Re: GNU Mes 0.25 released

2023-11-14 Thread Andrius Štikonas via rb-general
2023 m. lapkričio 14 d., antradienis 14:27:11 GMT aho...@0w.se rašė: > The term by itself does not even mention the programming language(s) > involved. That's because the process involves multiple languages. Do you want it to be called Bootstrap of C/C++Bash/Perl/Bison/Scheme/... (and many more)

Re: [bootstrappable] Re: diverse double-compilation

2023-11-14 Thread HW42
Andrius Štikonas: > Ok, you make some fair points and I partially agree with that. > > What I think you didn't realize, is that full source bootstrap does not need > any software > on the system. You don't need guix or kernel either. You can start with > ~200 byte "hex0" kernel and do kernel

Re: [bootstrappable] Re: diverse double-compilation

2023-11-14 Thread Andrius Štikonas via rb-general
Hi Martin, Diverse double-compilation kind of doesn't make sense (or is superseeded) in the context of full source bootstrap. DDC works in the following way: you start with a "trusted" compiler A and "unknown" compiler B Then A->B->B and B->B should produce identical hashes in the last stage,