Re: Bootstrapping and autotools
On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 00:11 +0200, kpcyrd wrote: > does somebody know what the bootstrapping status of autotools is? > > Also, is something considered "bootstrapped from source" if the build > is making use of a pre-generated `./configure` script that is 25k > lines long? > > In my opinion something is only "bootstrapped from source" if > autoreconf is used as part of the build instead of executing some > pre-compiled `./configure` script. This however means that, to > compile bash, one needs to compile autotools first. FWIW Yocto Project/OpenEmbedded autoreconf pretty much everything we can. We bootstrap our own autoconf/automake native tools too. To do that you effectively need m4, perl and gnu-config and we assume perl from the host system. Cheers, Richard
Re: Bootstrapping and autotools
2024 m. balandžio 18 d., ketvirtadienis 23:18:53 BST Andrius Štikonas via rb- general rašė: > 2024 m. balandžio 18 d., ketvirtadienis 23:11:41 BST kpcyrd rašė: > > hello, > > > > does somebody know what the bootstrapping status of autotools is? > > It can be done. See https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/blob/master/ > parts.rst > > > Also, is something considered "bootstrapped from source" if the build is > > making use of a pre-generated `./configure` script that is 25k lines long? > > Yes, I agree and that's what live-bootstrap does. Sorry, this ended up confusing. I wanted to say that live-bootstrap reuilds all pre-generated files (at least as far as we are aware): autotools scripts, bison/flex files, pregenerated header files, etc... > > > In my opinion something is only "bootstrapped from source" if autoreconf > > is used as part of the build instead of executing some pre-compiled > > `./configure` script. This however means that, to compile bash, one > > needs to compile autotools first. > > No, that doesn't mean that you need to compile autotools first. There are > other options, e.g. you can hand-write makefile. > > Also note that we recently learned that autoreconf -f is not guaranteed to > rebuild all pre-generated files. > > Andrius > > > curious, > > kpcyrd
Re: Bootstrapping and autotools
2024 m. balandžio 18 d., ketvirtadienis 23:11:41 BST kpcyrd rašė: > hello, > > does somebody know what the bootstrapping status of autotools is? It can be done. See https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/blob/master/ parts.rst > > Also, is something considered "bootstrapped from source" if the build is > making use of a pre-generated `./configure` script that is 25k lines long? > Yes, I agree and that's what live-bootstrap does. > In my opinion something is only "bootstrapped from source" if autoreconf > is used as part of the build instead of executing some pre-compiled > `./configure` script. This however means that, to compile bash, one > needs to compile autotools first. No, that doesn't mean that you need to compile autotools first. There are other options, e.g. you can hand-write makefile. Also note that we recently learned that autoreconf -f is not guaranteed to rebuild all pre-generated files. Andrius > > curious, > kpcyrd
Bootstrapping and autotools
hello, does somebody know what the bootstrapping status of autotools is? Also, is something considered "bootstrapped from source" if the build is making use of a pre-generated `./configure` script that is 25k lines long? In my opinion something is only "bootstrapped from source" if autoreconf is used as part of the build instead of executing some pre-compiled `./configure` script. This however means that, to compile bash, one needs to compile autotools first. curious, kpcyrd
