Re: Why is not everything reproducible yet?

2024-02-17 Thread Fay Stegerman
* Santiago Torres-Arias [2024-02-14 16:19]: [...] > 3. What other uses of r-b exist beyond the malicious toolchain > example? can we use them as leverage to increase interest in the > space? Apologies if I overlooked this already being mentioned, but one of the other advantages of RB IMO is

Re: Why is not everything reproducible yet?

2024-02-14 Thread Bernhard M. Wiedemann via rb-general
On 14/02/2024 16.19, Santiago Torres-Arias wrote: 1. can we study the conflicting interestes (i.e., above) that stop reproducibility from happening. Yes, that should be possible. The above summarized my experience from the 1000 patches and bug-reports I did and the interactions with

Re: Why is not everything reproducible yet?

2024-02-14 Thread Santiago Torres-Arias
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 09:42:53AM +0100, Bernhard M. Wiedemann via rb-general wrote: > Sometimes people wonder: > Why is not everything reproducible yet? > > And the general reason is that there are other interests that result in > added non-determinism. > I collected

Re: Why is not everything reproducible yet?

2024-02-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Bernhard, (this got lost in post end of the year busyness...) On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 09:42:53AM +0100, Bernhard M. Wiedemann via rb-general wrote: > Sometimes people wonder: > Why is not everything reproducible yet? > > And the general reason is that there are other interests

Why is not everything reproducible yet?

2023-12-20 Thread Bernhard M. Wiedemann via rb-general
Sometimes people wonder: Why is not everything reproducible yet? And the general reason is that there are other interests that result in added non-determinism. I collected some with examples Performance (PGO, benchmarking, -march=native, parallelism/races) https://build.opensuse.org