Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-31 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
changed the message to the user. So far no more deletes have happened.  We still have no clues how it happens when it does Karen -Original Message- From: 'James Bentley' via RBASE-L To: rbase-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2022 4:30 am Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] -

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-31 Thread 'James Bentley' via RBASE-L
Karen,Search RBase Help for SYS_OLD used in the command element WHERE CURRENT OF SYS_OLD in the BEFORE DELETE trigger.Be aware that access to SYS_OLD record is only available in the BEFORE DELETE trigger not in an AFTER DELETE trigger where according to SQL syntax where the update of the archive

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
orth a try using those 2 other identifiers! Karen -Original Message- From: Doug Hamilton To: rbase-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? I set up a DBActivityLogger table to track various events when/where needed. I set variabl

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
e one deleting, but I can't say I'm 100% on board with that.  Karen -Original Message- From: baue...@gmail.com To: RBASE-L Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 11:32 am Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? At this juncture, I would go straight to the GRANT on permissio

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread baue...@gmail.com
he table that the Before Delete Trigger >>> saves to, so it's an easy "append". Much easier than RScope! >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: baue...@gmail.com >>> To: RBASE-L >>> Sent:

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread baue...@gmail.com
>> >> Karen >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: baue...@gmail.com >> To: RBASE-L >> Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 9:41 am >> Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? >> >> Also, If you did NOT know, since the

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread baue...@gmail.com
Message- > From: baue...@gmail.com > To: RBASE-L > Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 9:41 am > Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? > > Also, If you did NOT know, since the DB is not damaged, those deleted rows > are recovered fairly easily with R:Scope. > > From

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
They are stored nicely in the table that the Before Delete Trigger saves to, so it's an easy "append".  Much easier than RScope! Karen -Original Message- From: baue...@gmail.com To: RBASE-L Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 9:41 am Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mys

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread baue...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 9:06 am > Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? > > But you also know that when the deletion is limited to EXACT rows and not > random gaps in the data file, that the deletions are occurring from one of > two sources. Programmatically or direc

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
/ out (only 4 users) Karen -Original Message- From: baue...@gmail.com To: RBASE-L Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 9:06 am Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? But you also know that when the deletion is limited to EXACT rows and not random gaps in the data file, that the dele

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-15 Thread baue...@gmail.com
t; > > -Original Message- > From: baue...@gmail.com > To: RBASE-L > Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2022 3:23 pm > Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? > > A "Delete Flag" is just a single character field that excludes the record > from any results. It is in l

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-14 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
From: baue...@gmail.com To: RBASE-L Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2022 3:23 pm Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? A "Delete Flag" is just a single character field that excludes the record from any results.  It is in lieu of "Actual" deletion.  Internally, I believe R:

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-14 Thread baue...@gmail.com
ded. Only one user has the password to run > that routine and the monthend date is never the one that is erroneously > deleting records. > > > Karen > > > -Original Message- > From: baue...@gmail.com > To: RBASE-L > Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 9:04 am > Subjec

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-14 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
--- From: baue...@gmail.com To: RBASE-L Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 9:04 am Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? Well it might take a little work, but this is what I would do.  #1 - I would lock the table down with access control as tight as practically possible. Add a single character fi

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-14 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
2 USING "OKAY TO DELETE" RETURN I'm going to ask them if they want to try this, thanks! Karen -Original Message- From: Robert Thompson To: 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? Karen,  

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-13 Thread Robert Thompson
want her to check anyway. Karen -Original Message----- From: Doug Hamilton To: rbase-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 10:51 am Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? What about using FIND in Custom EEPS, Expressions and Control Properties in all forms for: DEL ROWS

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-13 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
to ask each person if they've ever run DOS.  These people rate a 0.01 on technical skills, so they couldn't figure out a way around it.  But I want her to check anyway. Karen -Original Message----- From: Doug Hamilton To: rbase-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 10:51 am

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-13 Thread Doug Hamilton
now of during the past year Karen -Original Message- From: Adrian Huessy To: rbase-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2022 2:52 pm Subject: RE: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? Karen, Brainstorming without knowing your application and database: Missing user and computer name could indicate s

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-13 Thread baue...@gmail.com
-L [mailto:rba...@googlegroups.com] > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 12. März 2022 01:02 > *An:* rba...@googlegroups.com > *Betreff:* [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? > > > Why I needed the before-delete trigger: *no one* should ever be deleting > data from this table. And a

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-13 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
ps.com Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2022 2:52 pm Subject: RE: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? Karen,Brainstorming without knowing your application and database: Missing user and computer name could indicate system user. Access via ODBC/Oterro, other trigger? The way of deletion may give a hint: are

RE: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-12 Thread Adrian Huessy
' via RBASE-L [mailto:rbase-l@googlegroups.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 12. März 2022 20:45 An: rbase-l@googlegroups.com Betreff: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? Adrian: I am assuming they were actually deleted. Since the trigger is "before delete" and operates as it should

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-12 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
s or a database problem itself, I would think it would show up on an Autochk.  This database has never had a bad Autochk. Karen -Original Message- From: Adrian Huessy To: rbase-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2022 11:14 am Subject: RE: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger myster

RE: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-12 Thread Adrian Huessy
om Betreff: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? Why I needed the before-delete trigger: no one should ever be deleting data from this table. And although they have the full version of RBase, no one knows how to "get to the R> prompt". There is a monthend routine that the

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-12 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
---Original Message- From: Robert Thompson To: 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2022 7:43 pm Subject: Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery? A couple of thoughts...(some obvious, but it never hurts to ask!) Was the Deletedby value actually null or a blank?  If it

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-12 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
] - Delete Trigger mystery? Karen   My first thought was primary and foreign keys with cascade. So when you delete row with primary key system deletes foreign key Buddy Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:01 PM, 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L wrote:  Why I needed the before-dele

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-11 Thread Robert Thompson
A couple of thoughts...(some obvious, but it never hurts to ask!) Was the Deletedby value actually null or a blank?  If it was blank, then the computer name would not be captured with the "is null" parameter. Just in case there is some odd condition with nulls, you could set the var vtext = (

Re: [RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-11 Thread Buddy Walker
Karen My first thought was primary and foreign keys with cascade. So when you delete row with primary key system deletes foreign key Buddy Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:01 PM, 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L > wrote: > >  > > Why I needed the before-delete trigger: no one

[RBASE-L] - Delete Trigger mystery?

2022-03-11 Thread 'Karen Tellef' via RBASE-L
Why I needed the before-delete trigger:  no one should ever be deleting data from this table.  And although they have the full version of RBase, no one knows how to "get to the R> prompt".  There is a monthend routine that the senior user runs that will delete a batch of data, but that's all (w