Re: [RBW] Freewheels and Rivendell - Where We Started

2011-06-08 Thread tarik saleh
I did not buy that then and especially do not now that quality multispeed freewheels are not available. The removal line seems to be willful disregard of reality. Cassettes rarely get stuck. Freewheels almost always do to the point of being at least a pain to remove. I have broken and bent a fair n

[RBW] Re: Freewheels and Rivendell - Where We Started

2011-06-08 Thread islaysteve
This is interesting from my point of view. Having come to "modern" road cycling in 1994 (and not having heard of Rivendell or GP at that time), I bought a Shimano 8-speed freehub-equipped bike and never looked back. And of course that hub (which I still have) is compatible with the 8-9 Shimano h

[RBW] Re: Freewheels and Rivendell - Where We Started

2011-06-08 Thread Bill
My inner Luddite spoke to me when I acquired my new Sam last year: a Phil hub with a Dura-Ace 7-speed freewheel, and I couldn't be happier with it. On Jun 8, 12:44 pm, Jim Cloud wrote: > With the subject of freewheels on a recent post, I thought it would be > of some interest to quote a piece of

[RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Careful with that Shimanopore freewheel if you've got an IRD-specific Phil hub. If you do, and if it works for you, then maybe I have some other issue (probably "installer error" though I can't see how right mow) that prevented it from working for me. Creepily (to me, having grown up in a complete

[RBW] Re: FS/ FT atlantis frame 53cm

2011-06-08 Thread JL
I have pics for all those interested. On Jun 8, 2:12 pm, JL wrote: > I have a great condition Atlantis Frame for sale or partial trade. > > 53cm -Tange headset, fenders if you want them, maybe some other > extras- $1200 shipped > > I am selling this bike to make room for a new 650b rando build so

[RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread EricP
Well, I happen to like the Phil fw hub on my Sam Hillborne. Will admit that it was done (a) because it was something I wanted, having lusted after them in the 1980's, and (b) got an extremely good deal on it. Would I do it again? Probably not. The rest of my bikes have cassettes and am quite ha

[RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
On Jun 8, 4:55 pm, Steve Palincsar This situation has more layers of irony than a Dobos > Torte.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobos_torte The torte looks yummy! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
On Jun 8, 4:55 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > This situation has more layers of irony than a Dobos > Torte.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobos_torte > > Perhaps the greatest of all is that so many people believed that the > path to greater wheel reliability was via Phil hubs and freewheels for > r

Re: [RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 14:47 -0700, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > On Jun 8, 12:49 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 10:38 -0700, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > > > Is it reasonable to think that a *well-built* freewheel > > > mechanism would outlast at least some of the cogs? Those bear

[RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
On Jun 8, 12:49 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 10:38 -0700, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > > Is it reasonable to think that a *well-built* freewheel > > mechanism would outlast at least some of the cogs? Those bearings > > don't really "bear" a lot. And who knows... even the spacer

[RBW] FS/ FT atlantis frame 53cm

2011-06-08 Thread JL
I have a great condition Atlantis Frame for sale or partial trade. 53cm -Tange headset, fenders if you want them, maybe some other extras- $1200 shipped I am selling this bike to make room for a new 650b rando build so I am looking for basically everything frame up. Brooks saddle (B-17, B-17s, S

[RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Minh
Thomas, I'll tell you soon how this works out, i have a Phil Wheel IRD FW hub and i'm about to replace it with a sunrace one, at least until i can figure out if my IRD is trust-worthy or not. >From my research before, i couldn't find any deal-breaker differences between the IRD specific free-whee

[RBW] Re: So Cal July 10 - Three Speed "River and Sea" ride

2011-06-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Mike, you overlooked the last (and most important) bit of the invitation: "All bikes and riders are encouraged to show and go for a ride. One to 30 gears allowed (sorry 31 speeders). Be there or be L7." :-) H, an orange-shirted Atlantis rider, I'll have to think about that one... O

[RBW] Re: Nitto Touring Bar on Atlantis - First impressions...

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Oh, sorry. Please don't worry with the comparison photos for me. I've realized that I can deduce what I sought to know by comparing your profile photo of your Atlantis / Dirt Drop 100 / B825 with the live profile of my Sam / Dirt Drop 100 / Albatross bar. Thanks for the source. I may have a sixth

[RBW] Re: So Cal July 10 - Three Speed "River and Sea" ride

2011-06-08 Thread Michael_S
How many people really own a 3 speed? I guesss I"m not qualified for this ride. ~mike On Jun 8, 9:52 am, "Andy.M" wrote: > You remember the funny looking kid with the funny looking orange > jersey on one of those vintage funny looking Atlantis bikesdon't > you? > > -Andy Happy to be heading

Re: [RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 13:52 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> Is this possible with the build-your-own cassettes that harris sells? >> >> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#sprockets > > > Those are cassette sprockets.  I doubt they fit

Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Touring Bar on Atlantis - First impressions...

2011-06-08 Thread Rene Sterental
The Paul thumbies can be ordered online directly from Paul Components: http://www.paulcomp.com/mtthumbie.html. The ones that i discovered fit on the stem are the mountain version; I had originally thought of putting them on the bars but gave this a try and it worked. One's going to be a bit higher

Re: [RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 13:52 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > > Is this possible with the build-your-own cassettes that harris sells? > > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#sprockets Those are cassette sprockets. I doubt they fit a freewheel body - ANY freewheel body, never mind any specific

Re: [RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 10:38 -0700, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: >> Is it reasonable to think that a *well-built* freewheel >> mechanism would outlast at least some of the cogs? Those bearings >> don't really "bear" a lot. And who knows... even t

Re: [RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 10:38 -0700, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Is it reasonable to think that a *well-built* freewheel > mechanism would outlast at least some of the cogs? Those bearings > don't really "bear" a lot. And who knows... even the spacers may be > useful. Certainly. Back in the Good Old

[RBW] Re: Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
"I feel your pain". I had two IRD freewheels fail within a few hundred miles. Both from the same source. But after that, I've had one that's gone well over 1,000 miles without a problem. Not saying that's a lot... just that it is obviously different than my experience with the others. So I'm comfor

[RBW] Re: So Cal July 10 - Three Speed "River and Sea" ride

2011-06-08 Thread Andy.M
You remember the funny looking kid with the funny looking orange jersey on one of those vintage funny looking Atlantis bikesdon't you? -Andy Happy to be heading back to the sunshine ;) Mari On Jun 7, 5:18 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Who is this "Andy" person, anyway...? > > > > > > > > > > On

[RBW] Freewheels and Rivendell - Where We Started

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Cloud
With the subject of freewheels on a recent post, I thought it would be of some interest to quote a piece of Rivendell history from the first Rivendell catalog (Summer 1996). "Freewheels "We don't sell cassettes. There's nothing wrong with cassettes, but there's something fishy about the way they

[RBW] Re: Nitto Touring Bar on Atlantis - First impressions...

2011-06-08 Thread Jim
Nice set-up. what is and where did you get the fixture which holds the shift levers? Jim D (Massachusetts) On Jun 8, 12:59 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > I just installed the Nitto Touring Bar aka Butterfly or Trekking bar on my > Atlantis and rode it for the first time today on my Bike

Re: [RBW] Nitto Touring Bar on Atlantis - First impressions...

2011-06-08 Thread Rene Sterental
Thomas, I ordered the bars from Universal Cycles, http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=37412. I only discovered them through an online post as I was searching for Trekking bars. I'll do the overlay photo with the Albatross bars and add the Moustache bars as well, but that

[RBW] Re: FS: Touring Gear

2011-06-08 Thread Michael S
I'm interested in the fenders... Michael Scholten DC On Jun 7, 2:22 pm, Tim Smith wrote: > Well, I couldn't sell my 59cm custom. So I'm offering the touring > accessories that I was planning to sell with it separately. This is > (deluxe!) gear that I've bought in the past 7 or so years, but for

Re: [RBW] Nitto Touring Bar on Atlantis - First impressions...

2011-06-08 Thread Khalid Mateen
The bars are trekking bars but they swoop down in the front like mustache bars. These touring bars look like a combination of trekking and moustache bars. K On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Rene Sterental wrote: > I just installed the Nitto Touring Bar aka Butterfly or Trekking bar on my > Atla

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-08 Thread pruckelshaus
Quill stems allow for far easier (and far more) bar height adjustment, which is why I prefer them. I also prefer threaded headsets because I can remove the bar & stem from my bike and not have the fork fall out onto the floor. Threadless headsets were invented by an industry that was lazy and wan

[RBW] Re: FS: Touring Gear

2011-06-08 Thread Mike
On Jun 7, 12:49 pm, canali wrote: > interested in the front rollers...colour...condition? > joe > jwcoll...@hotmail.com > > According to the OP... "Ortlieb front roller classic bags, red (really like new!) -- $ 105" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RB

[RBW] Re: Nitto Touring Bar on Atlantis - First impressions...

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi! Thanks for the photos. I'd never seen the B825 in context. Where'd you get the bar? Any chance of an "overlay" or sise-by-side picture with an Albatross bar? I'm interested in comparing the sweep-back. But don't miss a ride to get a photo! Enjoy that bike! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jun 8,

Re: [RBW] Nitto Touring Bar on Atlantis - First impressions...

2011-06-08 Thread Rene Sterental
Congratulations! Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jun 7, 2011, at 10:35 PM, James Warren wrote: > > I dropped it off on April 6th or so, and I think it will be ready this week > or next. > > I'm getting a kickstand plate added, mini-rack braze-ons front and rear, and > the front rack mounts on the fo