[RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread Amit Singh
I'll be there on either the QB or Atlantis. Or maybe the Homer or Bomba. Decisions ... :) <3 Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owner

Re: [RBW] Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Jim Bronson
I would like to offer an alternative view to the rando bar love fest. I tried some "48" cm VO rando bars on my tandem and I hated them. The ramps are much narrower than the drops and that is useless for someone like me who's large and really needs to have a wide hand position at all times. On Jun

[RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, definitely flat, but 50 miles of deep, loose gravel on top of a Sacramento River levee would be a challenge on 33mm tires. I'm sure that won't be the case but it never hurts to ask. On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 8:14:34 PM UTC-7, Neil wrote: > > No idea about the route, but '50 miles in the D

Re: [RBW] loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
I bet it is your front rack and basket. The little front racks are a lot more wobbly than you think. Grab your basket on each side and with the wheel between your knees, rock each side up and down, and back and forth (yaw). Really flexy isn't it?  That motion is introduced into your forks and fr

[RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread Neil
No idea about the route, but '50 miles in the Delta' has gotta mean 'flat'. I think 33s would be more than adequate. On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 6:31:26 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: > > Neil, it looks like I can make it. I'll also be on my Sam. Are you, or > anybody else, familiar with the rou

Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Rom/Red 650b Conversions.

2015-06-01 Thread Tim Gavin
Great news, David! I wouldn't love my Riv Road so much if I hadn't converted it to 650b; 700x27 is too limiting for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a

Re: [RBW] Re: Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread subfascia
Ron, Thanks for the list. I use and like the WCS bars on one bike and noodles on another, so I must be on the right track. :) Jason > On Jun 1, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > > Hi Jason if you look at bars like Ritchey WCS - the reach measures the same > as noodles - but they are much

[RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
And here I thought "meet your maker" had something to do with the difficulty factor. Nope. This explains it: http://meetyourmakertour.com/about/ On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 10:04:48 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: > > I don't like the name of the event but > -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Dirty Kanza

2015-06-01 Thread Wildcat96
That first muddy section was anything but fun and I just about called it quits, but I was inspired by the people I helped and who helped me. My shoulders and back are still sore. The rest of my journey turned out great. Because I didn't have to worry about hitting a checkpoint on time, I was

[RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Neil, it looks like I can make it. I'll also be on my Sam. Are you, or anybody else, familiar with the route? There isn't much information on the website. My concern is with what they call gravel. I'm currently running 33mm tires and Longboard fenders. Do you think this will be a problem?

[RBW] Re: Ram/Rom/Red 650b Conversions.

2015-06-01 Thread David Banzer
I got around to attempting wheel/brake swaps this evening, to try and fit 650b wheels on my Redwood. I used an old Alesa-rimmed wheelset that I rebuilt (28mm wide rims or so) and Tektro R365 brakes with Koolstop Thinline brake pads. And the conclusion. It works! No brake slot filing require

Re: [RBW] Re: Question about knife sharpening device

2015-06-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I've been using the device for a few days now and I think it works just like a steel, it, to straighten the edge bent from use. Again, I use very little pressure and don't think of it as a sharpening device but a "truing" device, the measure of sharpness being the way the edge cuts a ripe tomato of

[RBW] Re: replacement for an Irish strap?

2015-06-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
Arno strap it is! I'll decide if I can wait, or buy a couple from REI. Thanks! On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 4:46:36 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: > > I think Arno straps are what you're looking for and probably readily > available at your nearest REI. They're longer than the Riv Irish strap but >

[RBW] Re: replacement for an Irish strap?

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Reimer
Yup. Irish Straps are made by Arno. They are available everywhere. However, the very sweet striped pattern seems to be only available at Riv. I've looked all over when I was in your situation. In the end, I just waited till my next Riv order and bought a bunch of them. On Monday, June 1, 2015

[RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Reimer
There were a ton of the NFE on the Oregon Outback and I have to admit I was envious. Many were setup just like I had my Atlantis - front panniers, rando boxy bag, and a saddle bag. They can fit 2.35 knobbies, or 42 slicks with fenders. On the wet descents with the loaded bike, I definitely wante

[RBW] FS: Gray Waxed Canvas Bags. (& one last red one).

2015-06-01 Thread Carla Waugh
Nice bags! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun

[RBW] Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-06-01 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
I absolutely love my first batch NFE. The tubing is perfect for my weight, uses, and riding style. The fork is more supple than my previous rawland rsogn and my simpleone, but all things aren't equal so it's pretty hard to say with certainty. As I understand it, it's possible to make a supple di

[RBW] Re: Clem presale end date

2015-06-01 Thread Wayne Naha
Well, I'm glad that's sorted. I'm about halfway there. Whew. On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 4:36:34 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > It looks like both of you have nothing to worry about. Grant clarified on > the Blug what exactly was meant by his 5/29 post. The price is what you > expected. $

[RBW] Re: replacement for an Irish strap?

2015-06-01 Thread john muhl
I think Arno straps are what you're looking for and probably readily available at your nearest REI. They're longer than the Riv Irish strap but the buckle and strap width are identical enough. http://www.rei.com/product/833518/coghlans-arno-straps On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 6:22:49 PM UTC-5, Bi

[RBW] FS: Gray Waxed Canvas Bags. (& one last red one).

2015-06-01 Thread David Banzer
In between some bag orders I managed to do a small run of gray waxed canvas saddle wedges. 4 total are available, 2 regular ones, 2 slightly fancier ones. Info here: http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/medium-saddle-wedge-ready-made Also, I made of a prototype of a small zippered wedge in red w

RE: [RBW] replacement for an Irish strap?

2015-06-01 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Patience, young grasshopper… From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 6:23 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] replacement for an Irish strap? I need a few Irish Straps. $8 is a b

[RBW] replacement for an Irish strap?

2015-06-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
I need a few Irish Straps. $8 is a bit pricey, but I love how they look, so I'm usually happy to spring for them. Turns out Riv is out of them for now. A couple years back I was in the lame camping aisle at my Ace Hardware. They had a Coleman brand tie-down strap that had the identical buck

Re: [RBW] Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-06-01 Thread Joe Broach
Hi Tony, The full housing runs are mostly about keeping grit and grime out of cables. They also allow for hydraulic lines if one goes that route for braking. An advantage of the top tube cable routing on a front loader like this is a clear downtube to grab, the best point for lifting a front-heavy

[RBW] Re: For Sale - Levers

2015-06-01 Thread John
All of my levers have found new homes. Thanks for your interest. John On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 4:08:36 PM UTC-5, John wrote: > > I've ended up with some extra levers that need a new home. Prices include > shipping to the lower 48: > > Tektro Interruptor brake levers - RX 2.0 model. Excellen

[RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread Philip Williamson
Quickbeam? My bike with all the CA parts (White, Phil) is a singlespeed mtb, so it's the QB or the Gravel Roadster for me. Philip biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-06-01 Thread Tony DeFilippo
It's an exciting looking bike, makes you think of the places you could go. I've not really felt the need for disc brakes so far but they did it w/out messing up the aesthetics of the bike and I know it's a big deal to some. Does the super long, housed run of the RD cable impact shifting perfo

[RBW] FS: Big Agnes Seedhouse 1-person ultralight tent.

2015-06-01 Thread drew
decided to pull the trigger on a bivy experiment and am selling my lightly used seedhouse sl-1 for funds. used it maybe 7 or 8 times and everything works fine. i made a footprint for it out of regular ripstop nylon or you can buy an official one from big agnes. here is a link with specs and st

Re: [RBW] Re: Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Ron Mc
Hi Jason if you look at bars like Ritchey WCS - the reach measures the same as noodles - but they are much flatter than noodles. Deda Newtons are equivalently long and flatter. Modolo X-boost is longer. My favorite drops are compact - Cinelli 64 On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 4:18:49 PM UTC-5, J

[RBW] SHOWTIME WEDNESDAY 9PM EASTERN

2015-06-01 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
If you get Showtime..60 minutes Sports is doing a segment on Backroads and extreme vacations. 9PM (EST) Wednesday. http://www.sho.com/sho/60-minutes-sports/home -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

RE: [RBW] Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-06-01 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Very cool looking bike, Bobby. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 3:50 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Elephant National Park Explorer http

Re: [RBW] Re: Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread subfascia
Ron, It has been my experience that modern bars have the shortest and most steep ramps. Even in the page you referenced the author mentions that ramps shrank as a response to integrated shift/brake levers. Was there a specific bar you had in mind when you said that? I really enjoy both flat ramp

[RBW] Re: Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Avery Wilson
Check out the Nitto RM - 013. Similar to noodles, but more flare in the drops. Just enough to keep my forearms from hitting the tops whilst in the hooks/drops. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-06-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
http://www.elephantbikes.com/stock/ Interesting bike... Rivish in several ways, skinny tubing, really cool fork (reminds me of Wes Willits' Wow fork) and it accepts disc brakes Stretching the possibilities... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Question about knife sharpening device

2015-06-01 Thread Andrew Drummond
I've never used a sharpener exactly like that, but my understanding is that sharpeners of that ilk (the carbide versions being the worst offenders) tend to leave a rough, almost torn-looking edge (on a microscopic scale) compared to sharpening with a stone or ceramic rod*. *It probably depends

[RBW] Re: Clem presale end date

2015-06-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
It looks like both of you have nothing to worry about. Grant clarified on the Blug what exactly was meant by his 5/29 post. The price is what you expected. $1400 as long as you pay before September 1. The June 1 thing is only about what bikes got ordered. The colors and sizes that people

Re: [RBW] loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread Jim Bronson
"Loaded handling question" Pun intended? ;) On May 28, 2015 11:07 PM, "cyclotourist" wrote: > Last week on a S240, had a great time (except for that one incident) > but the problem was really, really bad shimmy/wobble. So bad I really > couldn't take my hands off even for a bit at any speed. >

[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread Will
I have an Atlantis with a Tubus Logo Evo rear rack. I heavily load one pannier (right hand side) frequently. Has never shimmied. I think a good deal of this shimmy business is due to folks using poor cargo systems. Yes, I know Riv promotes saddlebags, but riding with high weight isn't wise. Al

[RBW] FS: Boxy Acorn Rando bag black

2015-06-01 Thread DS
Like new. Purchased last month when they went on sale and used for two rides, under 70 miles total. I've decided its too big for my needs. $200 + shipping (medium or large usps flat rate box). Local pickup also available in Oakland. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to t

[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Yes, this is what I'm looking for: "Note to that on every bike I can comfortable go down hill holding my floppy hat on my head with one hand and other hand lightly on the bar with zero shimmy or even a trace..." I think I just need to pack better, I like the forward of rear axle idea. That

[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread dougP
" If I bought an Atlantis expecting it to carry a load and it couldn't, I'd be upset. " It's a matter of placement, balance, and load security. The bike is fine; it's how we choose to use it that can cause variations in handling. Lot's of trial & lots of error went into my learning experience

[RBW] Re: Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Scott G.
Compass Bicycle has Nitto made copies of French handle bars. Long ramps, more flair than a Noodle. https://www.compasscycle.com/product-category/components/handlebars/ I ride Noodles on one bike and the Maes parallel on a couple, easy to switch between bars. -- You received this message becaus

[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread Kelly
Try putting your knee against the top tube. I know for me at some speed shimmy can be induced or begin and my knee calms it right down. That being said.. my theories.. right wrong ... shrug.. just me thinking.. 1. On my larger framed bike with larger tires I get shimmy free handed... non o

Re: [RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread Dan McNamara
I thought it was a 50 mile ride. Is there a shorter loop option? Did not see it on the site. Dan > On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Jeremy Till wrote: > > I'm going to try to be there, the condition of my right knee will determine > if I do the full 60 mile ride or the shorter loop. > >> On

[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread dougP
Doug: Shops have tools specific to the job. I do nearly all my own work but have the shop change out the headset. I just take things apart down to removing the fork. I made an appt for a day when they expected to be slow, walked in & they R&R the headset while I waited & watched. All they h

[RBW] ISO 10cm Tallux Stem.

2015-06-01 Thread hsmitham
In my search to find my cockpit sweet spot I'd like to try a 10cm tallux stem. Anyone have one lying around they aren't using? PM me if so. Cheers, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and s

Re: [RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread Hugh Smitham
Doug, Any reputable bike shop will swap your headset for about $25~30. YMMV. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Doug Williams wrote: > I just got a new

[RBW] Re: This is why no one likes riding with me.

2015-06-01 Thread Kieran J
I'm glad I came away from a couple of Manny rides unscathed. Endless bike-pushing, sketchy descents and repeated calls to "Kill It!!" certainly don't inspire one to employ conservative riding practices. It would have been a long Medivac back to Canada KJ On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 1

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Readers and Catalogs

2015-06-01 Thread true
Hey folks, Trying to clear out some more stuff and raise some funds for other bike stuff I came across this stash of Riv Bike literature I have had for some time. It consists of various Rivendell catalogs and Rivendell Readers as shown in these 2 pictures. http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

2015-06-01 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I definitely gave the Lego a second and third look, but am glad it went up higher than my budget would allow! No regrets on that! Happy New Bike Day to someone out there! On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 7:27:56 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote: > > I flirted with the Ram, but I did not win. I don't need another

[RBW] Re: Attn Sac area folks: Meet Your Makers ride this Saturday June 6

2015-06-01 Thread Jeremy Till
I'm going to try to be there, the condition of my right knee will determine if I do the full 60 mile ride or the shorter loop. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 7:07:11 PM UTC-7, Neil wrote: > > Any other Riv-ish folks up for this? Looks like fun, I plan on riding my > Sam. Flat ride, hope the wind i

[RBW] Re: This is why no one likes riding with me.

2015-06-01 Thread Jeremy Till
A few weeks ago I met list member Amit for the first time, when Manny was making a brief visit to Sacramento. One of our first topics of conversation was comparing scars we had acquired while riding with Manny. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 8:14:23 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: > > Hot. Steep. L

Re: [RBW] Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I'm a fresh convert to the VO Randonneur bars. They're available 42cm to 50cm wide (I've got the 50s and like them even more than my 48cm Noodles) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop recei

Re: [RBW] Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Ron Mc
Modern bike has a good selection of Nitto with good drawings, and have both model Nitto Randos... http://www.modernbike.com/nitto-drop-handlebars On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 9:55:49 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: > > If you mean flare instead of flair >

[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread Matt B.
On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 8:57:12 AM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: > > I just got a new Homer and love it. I did get a small amount of shimmy > when I had my SaddleSack Large fully loaded on an R14 rack with no other > weight anywhere else. But really...I have a Mark's front rack so there is > n

Re: [RBW] Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Tim Gavin
If you mean flare instead of flair ;-) Nitto B132/135 Randonneur bars may be what you're looking for. The B132 and B135 have curvy tops like the noodle, but more flare through the drops. The B132 has more reach

[RBW] Re: Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Ron Mc
Rando bar has more flare, Maes bar has more reach, the longest flattest ramps are on modern ergo bars, but they typically have zero flare. You might want to look over this website: http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/ On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 9:41:57 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye

[RBW] Alternative to Noddle Handlebars

2015-06-01 Thread Jayme Frye
Bent my Noodle bars in a crash and must replace. Part replacement always stirs thoughts of what else is available that I might like. The things I like about the Noodle bars are the long flat ramps behind the hoods as a hand position and the flair of the drops. From the more must be better schoo

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

2015-06-01 Thread WETH
I flirted with the Ram, but I did not win. I don't need another bike even though I want almost every Riv I see! On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 8:56:46 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote: > > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:01 PM, cyclotourist > wrote: > >> So who is the big winner??? >> > > Not me, I stayed out o

[RBW] Re: Dirty Kanza

2015-06-01 Thread Jayme Frye
How did the 50 "fun ride" work out for you? ;-D Special thanks go to DK organizers for putting everyone through the crucible of mud regardless of their chosen distance. I've never completed a bike race where my upper body was more tired than my legs. My training plan did not prepare me for carr

[RBW] Wanted: 54 Rambouillet or (maybe) a 51 San Marcos or Roadeo

2015-06-01 Thread Johnny Alien
Found one. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-ow

[RBW] Re: loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread Doug Williams
I just got a new Homer and love it. I did get a small amount of shimmy when I had my SaddleSack Large fully loaded on an R14 rack with no other weight anywhere else. But really...I have a Mark's front rack so there is no excuse for that. I added a basket on the front so I'll put some weight the

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

2015-06-01 Thread Tim Gavin
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:01 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > So who is the big winner??? > Not me, I stayed out of the bidding. The Legolas was really tempting (and a nice price). But, it wouldn't bring any new capability to my bike fleet, just divide it more finely. I was also scared away by the li

[RBW] loaded handling question

2015-06-01 Thread Matt B.
For mid trail or Surly/Rivendell-like geometries, when configuring a rear load it helps to keep as much weight as possible in front of the rear axle. The contact patch of the rear tire is the fulcrum of a shimmy inducing lever. For the front you want low panniers with mass nearly concentri