[RBW] Re: anybody using thermarest cot tent?

DRW, Ron once you get the hang of it, setup and take down is fairly quick. Much like using a tent after the first couple times. If you plan on using it with a tent the tent cannot be too small or have odd-shaped door. You are putting a rigid structure through a door that normally a flexible stru

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

That bike answers the question, "How come Mountain Goat isn't around anymore?" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@g

[RBW] Re: Moose bar comparisons

Something like the Jones Bars on a Analog Cycles 0mm stem would be an interesting project to try. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-o

[RBW] Re: Moose bar comparisons

I've always felt like width=more torque through leverage. I'm wondering if you've considered Jones H bars, or the new Wavie. Personally I like Bosco's but the 58's felt too narrow, I'm currently running the 58's and I use multiple hand positions on them. Mark On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 3:1

[RBW] Re: Moose bar comparisons

Thanks, Ryan, Tom, and DRW. I’m not sure a more upright position is a bad thing, but need to try it and see if it’s too upright and back. Grin. In toying with mimicing the geometry of the Boots bars I’d need, I raised mine and they are much more stable to ride that way on the jouncy 4” wide path

[RBW] Re: Moose bar comparisons

I’ve had all three...though I moved the chocos off pretty fast. I’ll agree with everyone saying that of the three, bullmoose seems to be closest to what you’re looking for. I think, if you’re hoping the front position of chocos or boscos will be similar to the hooks of a mustache, that you’ll be

[RBW] Re: Moose bar comparisons

Hey Patrick, I love the Bullmoose on my Clem H. An excerpt from my Oct 2018 59 Clem H review: *I must say the Bullmoose bar is one bada$$ lookin' bar. First one I've had, and I love it on this bike. For those who've

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Here's an old Mountain Goat with laterally ovalized top and down tubes. I guess if you ovalized the seat tube at the bottom bracket a la Ritcheys you'd have somewhere to make that mixte-y top tube join somewhat coherentl

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Joe, if they make any bike flirting with a 25 year anniversary I will buy it, regardless of the design. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

John G., I picture the tubes looking very thin from the side, giving the frame kind of a wispy look, like a butterfly. I think it would be fascinating. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I’m having a hard time visualizing it. I’d be interested in a mixte, but I’d want more details. Bummer about the Roadini sales. The new Riv sizing puts me on the edges of sizes, so I’ve held off on a Roadini and a Homer. Being on the edge of a size range has never worked well for me before. --

Re: [RBW] Moose bar comparisons

Patrick I have run the bullmoose on both my Quickbeam and Bombadil. I find the nature hand position extremely comfortable and well controlled, you have the means of placing both hands inside if needed in headwinds etc to get extemely aerodynamic at my (our) age.Your statement and defense a

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Kids, I do not understand why you keep deviating to designs you can pay Riv to build as a custom. That's not what this thread is about. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

You may not like it now, but you will You may not like it now, but you will The future will not stand still Grantmuses for Rivpeople Rivmuses for Grantpeople Jeff "Ride Hard, Ride Clean" Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I'm with Don on this.  I'd really go for a 25th anniv re-release of a classic early Riv, The Road, the Long Low, The All Rounder, with the old style Rvendell decal (which was never used for customs.) GP could take orders and only have the sizes and qty made that people pont up for.  The orig Re

Re: [RBW] Moose bar comparisons

What intreagues me about the Boscos is the upright/back position, with the option of the forward agressive. I’ve been playing with my Moustache II’s higher and really liking the float that gives by unweighting the front wheel. What intreagues me about the Choco is it is essentially a slight drop

[RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I have to pass. They've lost me with their new models. On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:31:37 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote: > > Here :* > > > 6. This will be our 25th year. We'd talked internally about a 20th >> anniversary bike, but

Re: [RBW] Moose bar comparisons

Oh, and why the focus on Filletededettedd? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this gro

Re: [RBW] Moose bar comparisons

Thanks, Ryan. Could you please describe more of your thinking for eliminating the Bosco, and putting the Choco behind the Bull? I’m intreagued by the possible inside position on the Bull forward and inside, ahead of the brake levers. How does that work as an into the wind position? With abandon

Re: [RBW] Moose bar comparisons

Torque, Eric. Fixed gear, jouncy trail torque. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegrou

Re: [RBW] Moose bar comparisons

Welding your handlebar to your stem seems like giving up a lot of potential adjustability for what? Retro appeal? Eric On Sunday, February 3, 2019, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > This has been covered a lot, but the threads are hard to cul

[RBW] FS- Tubus & Racktime racks plus Oveja Negra & Revelate bags

For Sale are some items that I really don't use or are duplicates or don't fit my bike. Plus CONUS shipping or free San Diego pick up. 1.) Tubus Vega Evo Rear Rack in black. Uncut stays and in excellent condition. Mounted but not used. $65 2.) Racktime Front Rack in black. Great condition $30

[RBW] Moose bar comparisons

Deacon, I have all three and love them all. That said the only one I would use for your riding that is beautifully depicted with words and pics is the Bull. With the Choco a 2nd only because of 3 riding positions if variety is important to you. Best of luck. If you end up with a extra of e

[RBW] Moose bar comparisons

This has been covered a lot, but the threads are hard to cull through, and perhaps folks have fresh experiences. So, for mixed road/trail bikepacking, all day riding, what is the best moose bar? Bull, Bosco, or Choco? With abandon, Patrick www.CatholicHalos.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

I don't have any good photos yet of my Hunqapillar. This one has some vertical distortion and the seat was actually up too high, but it's the best I've got right now. Despite being one of the very first Hunqapillars, the paint is almost flawless, but that hasn't stopped me from already fantas

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless questions

Madness! Or silly at the very least. Tubeless valves with no clean and easy way to get the stuff in there? Obviously more general managment was needed at the tubeless valve factories of olde. -Kai BKNY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bun

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Patrick, Cost of shipping two frame boxes and one wheelset was $350USD via Bikeflights/FedEx. UPS would have been substantially more costly but provide much better service (Bikeflights took close to a month to arrange paperwork before they could be dispatched). Dunedin is a wonderful city na

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Now that I do like. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 10:07 PM Ray Varella wrote: > I suspect something like a Legolas that takes 50mm 650 tires would attract > a fair amount of attention. > > A bit pared down in stoutness from the current allrounders. > A refresh of the original allrounder/XO-1 > > I’m pr

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Great photo. Curious: what was the cost of shipping to Dunedin? (I really like these quasi-English antipodean place names.) Patrick Moore, who remembers flying from Karachi to Los Angeles, on 1/4-full 747s, when you could take the entire middle row and stretch out to sleep. On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at

[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

The JJJ Bar (you don't even know what's it's called) is made by Nitto. So sure, Nitto ripped off themselves. Idiot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I vote for a carbon disc brake mixte bike just to throw everyone off. It sounds like Grant has a clear idea of his vision and a mixte would fit the current direction of the company. I just wonder how the model would be different From the Gus, Clem L and Cheviot. I don’t see a lot of gaps in the

[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC-8, Victor Hanson wrote: > > Straight up rip off of Sycip's JNJ bar and the On-one Mary.. > Seriously? Why not mention Surly Open Bar or Misfit FuBar, or Nitto's own Jitensha bars, or the multitude of other alt-bars? You think Sycip and On One were t

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Multiple people said they would buy a drop bar mountain bike that takes Thunder Burt’s. I’m digging my Thunder Burt drop bar Rivendell. It’s a MIT Atlantis. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T

[RBW] Re: With Abandon photoblog to move to... where?

Thank you for the generious offer, Jason. I’m too dim for WordPress, even with someone else actively doing tech upkeep on the back end, and I need my ministry blogs all on the same platform, so it’s best if it’s a simple enough solution I can run it. Which means pretty simple. Grin. The Grid is

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

Huh? Good thing I learned about this, since I've been doing it all wrong (and stopped buying patches in lots of 100 twice a year, really) since about 2013! Of course it's worth it if your options don't include tubeless. I agree that (in my experience, which is limited to tubeless tires that are fa

[RBW] 25th Anniversary Riv

I apologize if this comes off as negative. My interpretation of Grant’s Blugh is that the only thing he is considering as a “special” 25th Anniversary option is the Mixte and 25 each in 4 sizes. I assume they would be MIT. It should be something Grant enjoys creating IMO as much as others woul

Re: [RBW] Re: Teach me about sealant in tubes?

IMHO not worth it. The time used to get sealant in tubes is royal pita. You would be better going with a tubeless ready tire and tire sauce. As I have stated before, you ride a lot, experiment with making your own,, if you ride less than 100 miles simply use one of the many available sealants.

[RBW] Re: MIT AHH reviews?

I just ordered the 58 demo. Will report back as soon as i get it and put a few miles on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunc

[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

Straight up rip off of Sycip's JNJ bar and the On-one Mary.. On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 5:09:31 PM UTC-7, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote: > > > After hearing about the upcoming Wavie handlebars from Bill Lindsay in this > post >

[RBW] 25th Anniversary Riv

It sounds quite interesting! With the special lugs it may well be an extended project? Would it come out during the anniversary? I hope it’s purple. Best, Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I’m interested in the Mixte idea as well. Sorry in advance for the thread drift but since we are sort-of talking about this here’s some 25th anniversary ideas just because it’s fun to think about these things: (Disclaimer - I am not remotely anywhere close to being a novice on bike design a

[RBW] Re: The Wavie Bar is finally available

Thanks for the tip, last year I tried to order a matching set of Sackville bags for my Joe App and spent most of the evening getting the same color in all four bags and had to buy a larger saddle sag then I wanted to do so. On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 8:59:25 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Re: [RBW] 25th Anniversary Riv

Yes to 25th anniversary bike. On Friday, February 1, 2019, Joe Bernard wrote: > Grant mentioned this as a possibility on the latest Blahg, and I'm curious > to hear how much interest there is in it. I think it sounds swell, > especially with the "Rivendell" name on it. I want one! > > Joe Bernar

Re: [RBW] Oddities that make the ride home extra-adventurous

Patrick, I was last in Nairobi in 2016. I am an anthropologist and have been doing research in Kenya since 1994. Kenya has changed a lot. It has changed most dramatically since the Chinese began investing heavily in the continent. Nairobi is massive and there are too many cars. Where you lived is i

[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L

I just received a new Cheviot, so the Chem L 59 Grey Metallic I bought last year and new completed the build is available. On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-5, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > Frame or complete. > > -J > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

[RBW] Re: With Abandon photoblog to move to... where?

I agree it would be great if you could export your content out of that grid site. I'd hate to see you lose all of those great posts. Maybe if support ever gets back with you you could ask if there's a way to export the content. Also, I'm a web designer by trade and would be happy to help you se

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless questions

No, the early tubeless valves did not have removable cores. VTW On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 9:06 AM Kainalu V. wrote: > There's such a thing as non removable valve cores on tubeless valves?! Or > you're talking tubes? And the "goo" is latex, which made me flash back to > those pesky latex tubes as

[RBW] PSA: For Sale "relaxed road" Rivendell custom 53 c-t in Woodland (Sacramento area), CA $2,000

I've talked to this fellow, it's a beautiful bike. The "long chainstays" are a bit deceiving though, this is a 26-inch-wheel bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fro

[RBW] PSA: For Sale "relaxed road" Rivendell custom 53 c-t in Woodland (Sacramento area), CA $2,000

No affiliation. Check those long chainstays. https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/woodland-rivendell-custom-road-bike/6810045028.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

[RBW] 25th Anniversary Riv

To clarify, my intention with this thread was to guage interest in the bike Grant mentioned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun

[RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I'd vote for a Legolas-type bike. Light tubing, canti/v-brakes, "modernized" with a sloping top tube and ability to take slightly larger tires like 38/42. Grant mentioned in his recent blog that the Roadini did not sell well, except the 50 and 54 sizes sold out. I think there are a lot of short

[RBW] WTB: 650b wheelset

Also, tubeless compatible would be nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this grou

[RBW] WTB: 650b wheelset

Rim-brake compatible, ideally silver, for mounting a tire ~40mm wide. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegrou

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Philip, The current orange on the Roadinis would be my first choice for color. It’s a great color IMHO. The orange on the HHH tandems is another great color, once again, IMHO Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscr

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I support Tony’s idea 100% and would definitely get something. I also support a thunderburt Legolas, or a thunderburt roadini/sam/chev. That said, I think Grant views the older frames as less evolved than the current and probably isn’t too pumped to sell something less evolved. -- You receiv

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

There are so many diamond frames in the lineup and in RBW history that I'm pulling for Grant's mixte anniversary bike. Anniversary is celebrating history/longevity and looking forward to the future, adding some romance, and to me that screams MIXTE. That's the bike that has carried me from the

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Tony, I love that idea! Everyone gets what they want! Riv gets sales, with guarantees, and everyone gets their dream frame. As long as five or so others share that dream. At that price! I would start with an original one tube Atlantis and might even get a quick beam. You only get to do this onc

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

I agree. A Thunder Burt Legolas in pumpkin orange would throw back to the burnt orange Riv cross bike I used to stare at on the internet, and be on-trend, at least with my friends’ bikes. Just re-badging the Frank Jones singlesepeed as an Anniverswry model (and offering a larger size) would als

[RBW] 55cm Joe Appa owners, what's your pbh?

I have a PBH of 85 and ride a 55 Joe. It fits perfectly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To p

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

I have a Dingle fixed 17/21 with a Dura Ace 44/39 crank. I’ve done the double setup with several cranks on a couple bikes. Works fine without the dedicated White double cranks. The upside is cheap high quality forged cranks and a wide choice of rings. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received thi

[RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Speaking of the All Rounder...RR03 , pg 34 has a nice write-up from the past. Reading this RR21 article , it almost sounds like the MIJ Atlantis was to the MUSA All Rounder what the MIT Sam w

[RBW] 55cm Joe Appa owners, what's your pbh?

hi, I've been sort of in the market for a 55cm App for awhile and that's heating up a bit now that spring is coming into a view bit I ride a 56cm Sam so I've assumed I'd be a 55cm App. my pbh is 84.5 Any owners of the 55 around that number? Thanks -- You received this message because you are sub

[RBW] 25th Anniversary Riv

Grant/Riv has always floated the idea of new models, it generates interest and chatter like we have around the Gus right now. In this case it's the opposite for me: They don't have a bike right now that I'm looking at, and I'm leaning away from Gus 'cause I don't think I have a need for it; I'm

[RBW] 25th Anniversary Riv

I'm not sure that mentioning this is a good idea. It seems like it might discourage people from holding off on a purchase, because a "better" bike is coming. Cash flow could drop and then they are in trouble again. The squished tube idea also seems like a gimmick, resembling what Colnago did

[RBW] Re: PSA 62 Betty Foy on eBay

I’m glad it stayed in the family :) Hope you enjoy it and ride it for many miles! Post some pics! Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-ow

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Wow, Tony, that's brilliant! Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To p

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

Pure fantasy but my ideal'Riv 25th Anniversary' design would be... Open up the full historical design catalog so long as lugs still exist to support, pre order with full deposit only. Any design that gets 5 or more orders (whatever threshold is driven by River and their builder to ensure a prof

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

>>Are there any visual examples of the laterally ovalized tubes grant is >>talking about on a bike?<< That would be laterally stiff, but vertically compliant :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gro