+1 on the Riv MUSA shorts. I have a number of pair that I’ve had for ~4 years, 
they are bombproof. I’m not as fond of the pants as they are a bit funky in the 
way they fit me.



> On Dec 14, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Bill Schairer <commut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I love mine.  I have three pair, 2 gray, 1 black.  The black do seem smaller. 
>  At any rate, I wear them almost every day and have found them to wear 
> extremely well.
> 
> Bill S
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