Hi Patrick, I have to ride Parigi on the crisp side (90 psi rear). My
wheel load is probably higher than yours, but if I ride them under
pressure, I feel like I'm overstressing the rim on shocks - the air volume
in the S-B overcomes the wheel load and lets me ride at very much lower
pressure
What tire is the S-B? I tend to run my tires lower than what many others
describe: 60-65 for the PRs, ~ 90 for skinny 23s, sub 30 for the 55 mm
Furious Freds, 55-60 for the 1.35 mm Kojaks on the 559 commuter. (I weigh
175.) At more than these pressures all start to feel rough.
Our roads are
On 03/20/2014 08:26 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
What tire is the S-B?
I'm pretty sure SB is the Challenge Strada Bianca, which is a 30+mm
version of the Parigi Roubaix.
I tend to run my tires lower than what many others describe: 60-65 for
the PRs, ~ 90 for skinny 23s, sub 30 for the 55 mm
Of course, that's it. But my P-Rs measure 29 mm on older Open Pros --
though come to think of it they are spec'd at 27 mm or so, IIRC (I bought
them second hand) so that the S-Bs would measure an actual few mm wider.
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On
I'll probably abbreviate them as Biancas from here out - I like the name,
which translates to caliche road - what we have here.
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:09:40 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
Of course, that's it. But my P-Rs measure 29 mm on older Open Pros --
though come to think of
What is zap a gap? Is that a product or just a slang name for something you
use for filling in cuts in tires?
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Hi Patrick, I have to ride Parigi on the crisp side (90 psi rear). My
wheel load is probably higher than yours, but if I ride them under
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Hi Patrick, I have to ride Parigi on the crisp side (90 psi rear). My
wheel load is probably higher than yours, but if I ride them under
pressure, I feel like I'm overstressing the rim on shocks - the air
? Is that a product or just a slang name for
something you use for filling in cuts in tires?
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Hi Patrick, I have to ride Parigi on the crisp side (90 psi rear
fronts and back are right, but the campy moskva rims are steeply v-shaped
and the spherical bolt seats them better that way.
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made me look, they're correct - that's some weird reflection...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5120003.jpg
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:41:34 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Looks like your brake pad holders are on upside down and backwards. Those
That IS weird! HAHA! How funny. You see what tricked me, though
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:05:01 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
made me look, they're correct - that's some weird reflection...
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On Thursday,
it was already in another shot I took today - the photo just above was
where I was trying to fit a Parigi tubie - it wasn't going to fit to my
dismay
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N7IS3N4gpdQ/UytPtYqocTI/BP0/qhtoR7etK2Y/s1600/P321.JPG
but here
On Thursday, March 20, 2014
Good discussion though, I had no idea what those fins were for!
Toshi the know-nuttin' bike mechanic wannabe
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Tires: My apparent infatuation with stout tires comes from the way I ride
now --- to work, downtown, and in the hills and on trails solo and with a
few friends, often enough with a load. I'm not meticulous with maintenance.
I've had about 500 flats in my life, and I don't like them anymore, and
Thanks Grant, but I think we were talking about what tires you and Jan
Sell. Thanks to both of you for expanding our choices. It's showing in
the tire market, and that's Good. Hmm, let's see, do I want pragmatic
tires or aesthetic tires...?
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:37:30 AM UTC-5,
Patrick, there is a paradigm shift between a 95 psi min-rating tire and a
55 psi min-rating tire. The fact that the Bianca Strada is every bit as
fast as the Parigi is noteworthy.
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:02:41 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
Thanks Grant, but I think we were talking about
Grant,
Thank you for the nice words. Yes, I appreciate your friendship, too. Fond
memories... I totally understand where you are coming from when it comes to
tires. There is a place for sturdy tires. You articulate it well: How much
do you want to think about your bike. I don't mind changing
For those of you who have never ridden a supple, wide 650b tire, you
might think that smile-on-the-face ride is hyperbole, but I assure you
that it is not (for me).
I haven't been really training for my brevet rides except for my
commute to work on my AHH and some trainer rides at night. On my
I appreciate both you and Grant chiming in to this thread. There doesn't
have to be much more to say to the topic, but I will say this - I think you
both are totally correct with the wider tires are better tires. Even on my
set up for fast club riding Roadeo I went with 33's and don't feel
The latest issue of Bicycle Quarterly has a very nice summary of all their
tire testing data. Interesting that the fastest tire they tested was a 25
mm tire -- a Vittoria, and that thanks to its casing. I daresay that up to
some point, a wider tire with the same casing would be a wee bit faster
Tires can really make a difference in the fun. Using the Bomba around town
I had the Schwalbe middys and then the big Conti Tour Rides. When the Big
Bens were available in 650B I put them on the bike as soon as I could.
Still an 800g tire but much more fun to ride.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:16
I'm fairly certain I bought my Sam because the test bike was shod with Hetres.
It's my first Riv. I'd taken a few test rides on other bikes, and my
then-current bike had Duremes, and the Sam felt completely different. Nimble,
but laughably smooth going over cobble and rough macadam. The
Patrick and Z - Agreed. If you want flat protection and good ride, Stan's
is definitely worth considering.
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:09:10 PM UTC-5, Z wrote:
Peter,
If you're looking for better flat protection w/Hetres, try squirting an
ounce or two of Stan's sealant into your tubes.
Late to the party but I'll play. I just bought a used, lower middle class
mountain bike (DB Outlook, 7 speed Shimano megarange fw) for my daughter.
One reason for the choice (beside fit and feel -- she liked it) were the
wide tires with mildish knobs. I took advantage of her ignorance to have
the
Peter,
If you're looking for better flat protection w/Hetres, try squirting an
ounce or two of Stan's sealant into your tubes. You'll need tubes that
have removable valve cores (like Q-tubes). I used to patch a flat after
even the shortest jaunt around town, but since Patrick Moore showed me
Matt Lynch: I, too, wonder if I'm missing something by not running Compass
or Grand Bois tires--or at least Jack Browns with their checkerboard tread.
But last year when I bought my Sam from Rivendell, I got Little Big Bens to
go with it. I love the bike and I like the tires, too, and at the
Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires. (vs the
supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses) From the RBW website
description of a Conti tire:
...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for
more support should you ever have to ride it dead
Well, consider the rides they do (at least the ones they mention publicly).
Jan does very long rides mostly on pavement and some gravel with an eye towards
speed. Grant rides a lot of fire roads in the Bay Area hills. They will
probably gravitate towards the tire choices that best suit their
My opinion is that Jan is trying to optimize his tires for randonneuring,
which is fine with me because that's the source of many of the miles that I
put on my Rivendell. I listened to Jan when I was running 700c and
switched from Gatorskins to Grand Bois and I had never been happier. Now
on
My Grand Bois tires sing around Phoenix, even on dirt. I don't ride my road
bike on the trails of South Mountain, but the roads there are great. Just
too short.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
Well, consider the rides they do (at least the ones they
On 03/14/2014 12:39 PM, Jim Bronson wrote:
My opinion is that Jan is trying to optimize his tires for
randonneuring, which is fine with me because that's the source of many
of the miles that I put on my Rivendell. I listened to Jan when I was
running 700c and switched from Gatorskins to Grand
Betty or Veronica? Ginger, or Mary Anne?
It's good to have good choices - and I'm in the middle of the Grant/Jan
spectrum. I'm a Clydesdale and I ride on some rough roads. I like fat
tires but don't like changing flats, so my tire of choice in 700c is the
Schwalbe Kojak. Still trying to
I'd hate to pedal a Boeing 777
On Friday, March 14, 2014 11:52:31 AM UTC-5, reynoldslugs wrote:
Betty or Veronica? Ginger, or Mary Anne?
It's good to have good choices - and I'm in the middle of the Grant/Jan
spectrum. I'm a Clydesdale and I ride on some rough roads. I like fat
tires
Speaking of tires, I have to give a plug for the Cont. CX speed that Riv sells,
if you havnt ridden that tire, you ought too. Its pretty darn light ~
420grams, and feels supple to me and SUPER grippy, even has flat protection.
Unimprovable( made up word) for the kind of riding I enjoy!
Somebody please buy and try the new Compass tires. I'm interested, but I'd like
to see how they perform.
–Eric N
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On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
My opinion is that Jan is trying to optimize his tires for randonneuring,
which is
I bought the 32mm 700c tire they have (forgot the name) but haven't had a
chance to use it though. I bought some tubes when buying the tires too, but
the valve stems are too short for my wheels. I am going to try them out on
my Roadeo and am hopeful for a nice, fast, supple ride.
I will say
Yes, In Winnipeg our roads look like the craters of the moon. I feel your
pain, Tim. So...sturdy tires like the Paselas I've been using work for me
On Friday, March 14, 2014 11:27:07 AM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote:
Well, consider the rides they do (at least the ones they mention
publicly).
I ride some pretty rough singletrack and dirt roads on Grand Bois Hetres
and they work great. The wider tires at lower pressures seem to be much
less flat prone. I didn't have such good luck with the 32 mm Cypres tires.
And if you want to see Jan on some rough roads with Hetres, just have a
This conversation makes me think more and more of going to tubeless hetres
but I don't think the rims (synergies) are up to the task.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
I ride some pretty rough singletrack and dirt roads on Grand Bois Hetres
and
In case no one has pointed it out, tire with a wire bead and robust sidewalls
also make better hula hoops...
rod
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Tubeless Hetres ride beautifully. I wouldn't try it on Synergy rims though. Try
it with Stan's rims on a disc brake bike.
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