Wes, sounds great. Thats why we have so many choices of bars, something for
everyone. Steve
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 2:04 PM Wesley wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> I love descending on upright bars! It is slower than getting into the
> drops because the upright posture creates a ton of wind resistance, but t
Hi Steve,
I love descending on upright bars! It is slower than getting into the drops
because the upright posture creates a ton of wind resistance, but the
enhanced view is more than worth it!
A few months ago, I converted my do-anything tank from drops to an
albatross bar. The impetus was a hi
I’m another rider who started wirh drops on my first 10 speed that I got
for my thirteenth birthday. Still on drops 58 years later, always level
with my saddle. Twice I’ve built up bikes with flat bars and always went
back to drops. I do spend most of my time on the ramps or hoods but
whenever des
Marc Irwin stated: "The point is that riders don't use that position (I'm
assuming drops). Even against the wind, only one with drop bars actually
got into the lower position. They all stayed up on the hoods or the flats
the whole ride."
Typically, this is because their stems are too low an
Thanks, Wesley, this is useful information. An Albastache won't replace my
drop bars because I often use the hooks, but it might give more hand
positions on my Monocog 29er than the (cut down) MAP/Ahearne bar currently
on it, which, though it is the best "upright" bar I've used to date, is not
as c
At the outset, I will say that I agree with pretty much everything said so
far in this thread. I heartily agree with RIDE WHAT YOU LIKE. I will also
say that I hate riding upright. I have the interesting situation in that I
captain two tandems every week - once a week for Charlie Cunningham and
I have an Albastache on an old road bike frame, and an albatross on an old
MTB all-purpose tank. The albastache is great! compared to the albatross,
it is more comfortable to grab the curve because it conforms to a natural
arm posture with the pinky lower than the index (which is opposite to the
I entirely agree that position or fit generally is the most important thing
in bike comfort and riding efficiently (yes, comfort is relative; but even
a pro will ride faster if he is more comfortable than if he is more
uncomfortable, and bad fit is probably the worst thing for comfort), and I
agree
I recently rode an event where my Roadeo was the spectacle of the ride. My
leather seat and “giant” banana sack bag and “fat” 32 mm tires were so
unusual. My comment to them was that the Roadeo is my light bike! I climbed
faster than my buddies despite my “heavy” bike and dusted’em on the
downhills
Leah's bike is better and prettier and her position is superior and that's
just the facts. In my opinion. Which is the correct one.
Joe "just sayin, and I'm right" Bernard
On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 6:37:59 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
> Leah's bicycle is superior to the roadies bicycles. That
Leah's bicycle is superior to the roadies bicycles. That is an opinion but
happens to be correct. Thank you Marc for this thread as it highlights the
fact that you don't have to follow the crowd or group-think (pun intended)
to succeed. I suspect some other riders in Leah's group would very muc
Here’s my one and only experience encountering a group of local club
riders.
Years ago (20) I was out on a Saturday morning ride on my Rivendell
Allrounder, upright bars.
I pulled up behind a group of road bike riders at a stoplight.
I said “ I thought I was the only one in this city that rode
I like club rides. Hanging with the A group is fun. Even getting dropped by the
A group is fun. As long as you come back next week.
My first Wednesday night ride I saw a guy on a white powder coated, fixed gear
Jeunet. I thought that was the coolest.
The next week I left my cannondale at home
Oh, George, I hope your question to me was sincere and not “crotchety” because
I would love to answer you.
“What’s the point?”
Inclusion. Encouragement: If I can do it, you can too. I cannot be the only one
who rides a Rivendell and wants to be part of a local bike community but feels
unwelco
"And to Joe's late arriving comment, yeah you have proved you can do it,
but once again, what's the point?"
For the record my comment was exactly on time.
On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 3:57:34 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Leah,
> Your exploits are certainly refreshing to me. Those dropbar/ca
"
On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 3:57:34 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Leah,
> Your exploits are certainly refreshing to me. Those dropbar/carbon/Lycra
> group rides always gave me a closed "you can't ride with us, stay away"
> vibe; I'm still not quite motivated to DO it on my Billie Bar long
"But to your point, who here has ridden both types of bikes and can
honestly say which is faster? Maybe it *is* the drop-bar, short wheel based
bike, but I’ve never ridden one, so I can’t say..." Well I, for one, have
and continue to ride both types of bikes and have no reason to negative
Leah,
Your exploits are certainly refreshing to me. Those dropbar/carbon/Lycra
group rides always gave me a closed "you can't ride with us, stay away"
vibe; I'm still not quite motivated to DO it on my Billie Bar long
wheelbase mixte-ish Riv - Joe Bernard, Slow Lone Wolf - but you've shown me
George,
Wait, is this Annie Oakley stuff directed at me? If so, I find your comments
bordering on mean, but I’ll try to remain objective here. The point of my club
ride posts is meant to be that one does not have to conform to the preconceived
notions embraced in bike clubs everywhere: that if
Annie Oakley?? Well ok then.
On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 3:06:11 PM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
> Maybe I was too unclear in my previous post because it was getting too
> lengthy, but what I was trying to underscore is that one cannot simply
> elevate a rider with upright bars to the same lev
Maybe I was too unclear in my previous post because it was getting too
lengthy, but what I was trying to underscore is that one cannot simply
elevate a rider with upright bars to the same level as one riding with road
bike drop bars without taking into consideration the level at which the
road
I agree that position on the bike matters, but I don't understand how the
young lady relates to the rest of your post. We're talking about bar height
and you mentioned her saddle was too low and she seemed nervous (which she
explained) and shifted a lot.
On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 1:51:54 PM
I clearly recall riding in an organized 100K group ride that took place in
Central Indiana in 1994 where a young lady and I had somewhat separated
from some of the other clusters of bikes and she asked if I wanted to join
her the rest of the way. She said she was a triathlete. I agreed and rode
I’ve got Boscos, Toscos, Rene Herse Maes os, and Some HWY onecos. I’ve ridden
albatross, bull horns, fun3s, high risers, etc.
They’re great. Having strong feelings about a handlebar seems strange to me. I
like the multiple positions on a drop bar as much as I like the upright
position on albatr
OK, I used to be all against the idea of riding in circles for sport. I'm
all about riding to get somewhere or do something, not just riding loops.
Then Covid lockdown hit and I didn't bike to work, there was nothing open,
and I didn't want to be exercising my lungs in the grocery store after
I've always been a "to each their own" kind of person when it comes to
bikes, and whatever gets anyone out riding and enjoying their bike(s) is a
very good thing. However, all of this discussion centering around the
controversies and drama of club rides just further cements my antipathy
towards
Agree with Bones. Everyone should ride the bike that makes them happiest,
but based on my experience experimenting with all different kinds of bars,
I can''t imagine that every single roadie would prefer drop bars if they
gave other options a chance.
-W
On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 6:09:20 AM U
I think that's the whole point. Drop bars are the only option on many over
the counter crotch rockets. Many people are not aware of the "endless
way(s) to ride."
Bones
On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:52:55 AM UTC-4 jo...@chilmarkresearch.com
wrote:
> Garth, couldn’t have said it better myself
Garth, couldn’t have said it better myself.
Whatever works for YOU is all that counts…
…though I have been known to give pointers to relatively new riders on form,
cadence, gearing etiquette, etc. to help them maintain pace in a paceline.
Johnnysmooth
> On Jul 26, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Garth wrot
I've ridden many a mile and raced with quite low drops bars. I've ridden
many a mile with with quite high Albatross bars.
I've ridden many a mile with "regular/street" clothes. I've ridden many a
mile with "cycling specific" clothes.
Day/night/up/down and all around .
Who/what is to say one
I would have said look at all the other riders' body positions compared to
Leah's. It's the same. It's the same position I am in while holding front
of my Albatross/Billie bars. I can't dispute that drops are great sometimes
(mostly wind for me), but I have my drops high enough to comfortable an
Eric,
The point is that riders don't use that position. Even against the wind,
only one with drop bars actually got into the lower position. They all
stayed up on the hoods or the flats the whole ride.
Marc
On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:38:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
> Is there any doubt
Is there any doubt drop bars aren’t faster? Less drag goes a long way. A
more leaned over position lets you use your big butt muscles better.
Leah is up front because she’s a strong rider. Maybe she would be up
fronter if she had drops.
Eric
With no drop bar bikes in the garage.
On Tuesday, Jul
It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club. A
typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles. A good bunch of
people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop
bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright
bars.
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