Re: [RBW] Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

2017-01-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
Or, it could just be that in the days of level top tubes, smaller diameter tubes were used to build bicycles, resulting in more flexible frames than would be the case with oversize tubing of the same thickness. And more flexible frames indeed can climb better. On 01/06/2017 06:57 AM, Eric

Re: [RBW] Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

2017-01-06 Thread Eric Daume
Clearly, the up sloping top tube is making your climbs effectively steeper. That's why it's more difficult :) On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 5:29 PM, John Bokman wrote: > I'm trying to discern if there's any real (not imagined) physical > properties of the upsloping top tube on my

Re: [RBW] Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

2017-01-05 Thread john Bokman
Joe, that’s pretty intuitive on your part. You may be right; it could be time to roll on some new wheels. I’m always interested in hearing how other rider’s perceptions may or may not jibe with mine. Every rider has an opinion, and each opinion is completely valid. It’s nutty how for one

[RBW] Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

2017-01-05 Thread Garth
Maybe you are comparing it another bike with a more mid or low trail geometry ? Yes, when I change from my sport touring bike with neutral handling to my Bombadil it feels downtight wierd every time , but now it passes quickly. That wierd could be called sluggish by someone else, since

[RBW] Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

2017-01-05 Thread John Bokman
I'm trying to discern if there's any real (not imagined) physical properties of the upsloping top tube on my 2009 Sam that would make it a sluggish climber. I've never cared for the aesthetics of the sloped frame, so I'm thinking it could be in my head. But the truth is, I've always felt the