[RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
The newsletter pretty unambiguously declared the MIT Hilsen is replacing the Hillborne, so there will be no more Sam Hillbornes. The newsletter also said a little bit more ambiguously that Clem’s are going to end. For the year or forever wasn’t clearly stated, but it said the last of the cheap R

[RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread Rod Holland
Blame it on intertextuality, but I recall Grant saying elsewhere that the Clem-L would probably replace the Clem-H going forward, and so gave the text a narrow reading: last of the Clem-Hs, but not last of tbe Clem-*s... unless they bring back the Clementine model name. Based mostly on remarks

[RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread Joe Bernard
I have an email in to Dave @ Riv about the Sam situation, but haven't heard back yet. I think they're all headed to Rivelo for the weekend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

[RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Update from Dave: No Sams planned for '18/'19 beyond the upcoming small Sparkly Orange 51cm run. Could be back later, but hoo boy I better think about getting that 51 before I become a much older person. Orange! With sparkles! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

[RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread Drw
I say get rid of the AHH and Sam and bring back the Saluki. All functionally equivalent, but the newluki could embody both more concisely and get the best riv headbadge back in circulation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread Joe Bernard
That would make both Country Bikes in the new catalogue obsolete. This seems an unlikely move. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-b

[RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread Drw
I know. BUT, it could be as simple a decal and headbadge swap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-14 Thread Jim Bronson
Where does one find this newsletter? I usually get physical mailings from RBW but haven't seen one since the most recent catalog. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 7:58 AM Bill Lindsay wrote: > The newsletter pretty unambiguously declared the MIT Hilsen is replacing > the Hillborne, so there will be no m

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Hmm, there used to be a link on the website..it's an email list you subscribe to. Let's see if my copy/paste worked: retrofit View this email in your browser Learn • Shop • Blog • Support • Call: (800) 345-3918 Rivendell Bicycle Works 2040 North Main St. #19 • Walnut Creek, CA 94596 Ju

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-14 Thread Jonathan D.
My understanding from that statement is that Riv will be alternating orders between the Sam and AHH, and Joe and Atlantis. That is why the sizing doesn’t overlap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-14 Thread Ron Mc
If it makes you feel any better Jim, I get the newsletter, but didn't get the catalog. On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 12:09:00 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: > > Where does one find this newsletter? I usually get physical mailings from > RBW but haven't seen one since the most recent catalog. >

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-14 Thread JohnS
Joe, what about the Roadeo? Any frames for this year? Thanks, JohnS On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 1:36:30 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Hmm, there used to be a link on the website..it's an email list you > subscribe to. Let's see if my copy/paste worked: > > > retrofit > View this email in

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
John, are you asking me/Joe? I don't understand the question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread JohnS
Sorry Joe, my bad. Should have been.a question to the people at RBW. JohnS On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:45:41 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > John, are you asking me/Joe? I don't understand the question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread James Warren
Funny enough, the Salukis did come in either sidepull version or cantilever version, the main distinguishing feature of MIT Hilsens versus Hillbornes. I found an online image of a Saluki with sidepull Silver brakes, but I have a question out of curiosity: were any Salukis made with dedicated p

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Nope. That was around the time Riv first started promoting centerpulls, but they always sold the Paul Racer with the center bolt. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-15 Thread James Warren
I remember when the Saluki was in the works, they said it would be for “650B and centerpulls” which seemed so badass at the time. The Silver brake (AKA Tektro R559) still didn’t exist yet, so it was presumed that the centerbolt sidepull models would be set up with centerpulls. A year or two d

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-16 Thread Fullylugged
Long time RBW fans understand: "if you see something you like, buy it now." Riv has always cycled older models out and newer ones in. Seems a result of changes in the supply chain cost & availability in different places as well as the continued development of bike thinking on the part of GP. I

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-16 Thread Christopher Murray
I thought the very first Salukis came with either with cantilever posts or without. This was before the big Tektro brakes. I could definitely be wrong. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group a

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

2018-06-16 Thread James Warren
> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Christopher Murray wrote: > > I thought the very first Salukis came with either with cantilever posts or > without. This was before the big Tektro brakes. I could definitely be wrong. No, you’re right, canti posts or without. But because it was prior to the big