Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-06 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
You certainly COULD set up this bike with an IGH, but it appears to have all the usual provisions for a rear derailleur (DT shifter boss, chainstay cable mount). IMO, people buy IGHs for all the wrong reasons - i.e. the mythical no-maintenance drivetrain that tends to appeal to non-mechanical

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Many people like them for the simplified shifting - no cog/chainring jumping - plus the ability to downshift while stopped. I am one of those people. My derailer bikes are swell, but I like my Nexus-hubbed Electra Amsterdam a lot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-06 Thread robert zeidler
I have a Civia Bryant w/ IGH. I bought it as a winter/commuter kind of experiment. It weighs a ton, but th weight mostly disappears once it gets rolling. Shifting takes some getting used to. I think Grant has something other than looks in mind here, but he's also loving the conjecture-it's

[RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Joe Bernard
It exists, I am bewildered. I can't figure out the reason for the assymetrical diagatubes in the rear triangle, or what those D-shaped braze-ons are for. Discuss, people who discuss things. http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/13791776081/odd-new-bike-p-2 -- You received this message because you

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Of Joe Bernard Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:32 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS) It exists, I am bewildered. I can't figure out the reason for the assymetrical diagatubes in the rear triangle, or what those D-shaped braze-ons are for. Discuss, people who

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Ray Shine
? From: Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, December 5, 2011 1:31:50 PM Subject: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS) It exists, I am bewildered. I can't figure out the reason for the assymetrical diagatubes in the rear triangle, or what those D-shaped braze-ons

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread William
I'm not completely convinced about the carry strap being a slam dunk since the downtube thingy splits the two water bottle braze ons. If that's what it is then you could run a strap OR a water bottle, but not both. I'm trying to take a clue from the horizontal rear dropout WITH a rear

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Horace
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to take a clue from the horizontal rear dropout WITH a rear derailer tab.  Horizontal implies we're moving the wheel around, but the derailer tab implies we wont have to move the wheel around to take up chain slack. 

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
and derailleur hanger? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:19 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS) I'm not completely

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Actually, we see one dt shifter boss on the right side, and the D-shaped thingy seems to block a front derailer placement. I've been expecting an IGH bike from Rivendell..I think this is it. I assume a cassette-plus-rear-derailer option will be available. You could made that with a Schlumpf

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:45 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS) Actually, we see one dt shifter boss on the right side, and the D-shaped thingy seems to block a front derailer placement. I've been expecting an IGH bike from Rivendell..I think this is it. I

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Joe Bernard
The Rohloff takes a dedicated dropout. Does anyone see anything like that here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Kful_xIupDgJ. To

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Of Joe Bernard Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:58 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS) The Rohloff takes a dedicated dropout. Does anyone see anything like that here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread James Warren
-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS) I think an Alfine is more in line with a production IGH bike Rivendell would produce: It's more "105 level" to the Rohloff's "Dura-Ace" expensiveness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Grant has voiced opposition to IGHs before, and nothing about this suggests this will be a dedicated IGH bike. This one appears to lack the Rohloff OEM mount, as well as the ISCG tab for a Hammerschmidt crank (HS?). No anchor point for the Schlumpf either. The horizontal dropout with

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread cyclotourist
The horizontals make me think IGH more than anything else. It's the only Rivendell bike to have them (other than custom), which is significant. What's he doing in there...? On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Grant has voiced opposition

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I think Grant's opposition to IGH is not a current sentiment. His tastes have evolved some in recent years, and IGH has grown immensely in popularity in that time as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Peter Morgano
Whoa horizontal drops, 4 seat stays, brazed on derailuer hanger, it is an odd bike for sure. On Dec 5, 2011 4:31 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: It exists, I am bewildered. I can't figure out the reason for the assymetrical diagatubes in the rear triangle, or what those D-shaped

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

2011-12-05 Thread Peter Morgano
@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *William *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2011 5:19 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS) I'm not completely convinced about the carry strap being a slam dunk since the downtube thingy splits the two water bottle braze ons