Re: [RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-17 Thread Lester Lammers
I am in the longer legs than torso group and was in between a 51cm 26" and 53cm 650B MIT Atlantis. I did not want 26" wheels. The stand over of the 53 works for me but my shorter torso and the longer top tube of the 53 was an issue for drop bars. The zero analog stem will allow me to use Nitto D

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Lum Gim Fong
For me it is aestaetics. I like the uniforn sizing of the clamp area and the cuff of the 25.4/26 bars and dislike the looks of a bulge on 31.8 bars. But really, it wouldn't matter if someone never pointed those things out to me. I was perfectly happy riding my 31 bars until I started looking at

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Drw
honestly, 65% of this has to do with the fact that it is a removable faceplate quill stem that looks good. I tend to swap bars, and being able to keep bars wrapped and fully set up, would be a huge plus. Yes, i know there are other stems that have a removable faceplate, but they are either not

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Philip Williamson
I thought they made a case for buying a bigger frame to get a longer front center, and then using their stem to bring the bars back. I don't know how many people want to stand over a frame with a 3" longer top tube than "fits" them, though. I'm looking at longer slacker bikes for mountain bikin

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I don't disagree; I haven't followed the thread closely, but I gather that the Analog stem is part of a system, and not meant to be a universal improvement -- it's meant to be used with certain kinds of frames for certain kinds of riding. They may well be right; if I were for example to convert ano

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Lester Lammers
I ordered one because it was necessary for me use drops on a 53 MIT Atlantis. I don't think 26.0 bars are going anywhere. On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 5:30:41 PM UTC-4, Drw wrote: > > I'm considering getting one of the analog stems for my atlantis. they are > pretty pricey, so i'm hemming and ha

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Bob Keal
Interesting take, Patrick. I agree wholeheartedly that "...stems with extensions used with drop bars, and bikes built to use them both, have been around too long to be mere mistakes in design." At the same time, it seems to me that Analog isn't saying bike design is wrong or that people have been m

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread d2mini
They have some interesting points about steering/handling and toe overlap with a wheel that was farther out front and slacker angles, but that won't change just by changing your stem. The bike would have to be designed with this in mind. By using their stem you'd get a more upright riding positi

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I have to agree. I don't discount the Analog idea entirely -- it may well work for some bikes in some applications for some riders -- but stems with extensions used with drop bars, and bikes built to use them both, have been around too long to be mere mistakes in design. On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 3:

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-16 Thread Garth
If anything is going away, it's Analog's idea of long stems going away. 😀 I would ask myself if I was really buying the right(yes pun) stem for the bike and me, or I was buying a someone else's "theory" about what I "should" be riding. -- You received this message because you are subscr

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-15 Thread Joe Bernard
31.8. Lots more options now and in the future for drops, plus it's the same size for flatish bars. Embrace the future, man! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, se

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-15 Thread Clayton.sf
The real (for me) reason for 31.8 is less bar slip. The more sweep the bar has and the rougher the riding is the greater the benefit of 31.8. Albatross will slip for me in certain situation, my 31.8 Jones stay put no matter what. Clayton Scott, SF, CA -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-15 Thread Bob K.
Bill’s idea of going 31.8 and then shimming down if needed is a great one. Do that. “The time to hesitate is through.” Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-15 Thread Drw
I'm sold on the idea of a super short stem with drops. Moving mine from a longish stem to a dirt drop stem has been great. Anyway, making this decision is almost crippling me to the point of not buying it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owner

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-15 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
I don't believe 25.4/26.0mm handlebars will become obsolete, especially if Nitto continues to survive and thrive. Actually, even if everyone discontinued 25.4/26.0mm handlebars today, there is probably enough stock flowing through the system to supply us retro-grouches for decades simply becaus

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-15 Thread Neil Doran
No idea if 26.0 is going away, but depending on what you want, 31.8 may have way better options. I wanted Salsa bars, so had to go with new 31.8 stem. I don't notice a functional difference, other than the salsa setup feels flexier than the noodle that preceded it. You could always buy the 31.8

[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

2018-05-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
Are there reasons for going 31.8? yes: -because you feel like it -because you think you are going to bend a 26.0 bar -because the bars you want to try only come in 31.8 will 26.0 bars be obsolete soon? no Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 2:30:41 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote: >