[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-09-11 Thread lungimsam
*UPDATE and report:* I swapped out the cassette for the 11-32 RBW sells, and threw on an SRAM 8 speed chain. It was really easy and fun to do. Didn't need to adjust limit screws. Just threw it on and runs fine like the old system. *How it effects drivetrain:* Chain runs fine thru my Deore derail

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-28 Thread dougP
If Jim says "works, sometimes", my sense is this is not a good idea. Seems like the downside could be spendy. dougP On Friday, February 28, 2014 4:41:22 PM UTC-8, Evan Baird wrote: > > My buddy Will used to run friction with an Alfine hub on his 650b Vaya. > Said it worked ok. Seems sketchy to

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-28 Thread Evan Baird
My buddy Will used to run friction with an Alfine hub on his 650b Vaya. Said it worked ok. Seems sketchy to me though. On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:07:52 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > Since we're talking friction-shifting, I thought I'd ask again (cuz I do > this periodically): Anyone

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I've friction shifted IGH hubs. It "works" sometimes. On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:07:52 PM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > Since we're talking friction-shifting, I thought I'd ask again (cuz I do > this periodically): Anyone have any success friction-shifting an > internal-geared hub? Ye

RE: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-28 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 1:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting? Since we're talking friction-shifting, I thought I'd ask again (cuz I do this periodicall

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Since we're talking friction-shifting, I thought I'd ask again (cuz I do this periodically): Anyone have any success friction-shifting an internal-geared hub? Yes yes, I know about potentially damaging the internals if you're not quite 'in-gear', but I'd really like to figure out a way to do t

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-27 Thread Michael
Update: I called RBW and they said it would definitely help to go to 8 speed cassette over the 9peed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-o

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-26 Thread Coconutbill
That's been my conclusion. I have the ability to use a 9-speed cassette, but since have gone to an 8 speed cassette with the same spacing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

Re: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-26 Thread HunqRider
You are right. It appears that, at least for Shimano and SRAM cassettes, the center-to-center cog spacing is 5.0 mm in the 7-speed, vs. 4.8 mm in the 8-speed, vs 4.34 mm in the 9-speed. Good to know. If I ever try friction shifting again, I will pick up a 7-speed cassette. http://sheldonbrow

Re: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
I switched from 8 speed friction to 10 speed indexed DA downtube shifters and haven't missed a single shift since. It's freakin' awesome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em

Re: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore
4 versus 4.5 mm, IIRC; at any rate enough to mess up indexing of 8 using 7 speed shifters (even with the "Centeron" pulley). I personally have never tried shifting 7 with 8. Centeron -- sounds like either a cult philosophy or else the younger brother of Darth Vader. (Brusquely tossing the hapless

Re: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
You are wrong about spacing. See sheldon on this. HunqRider wrote: >I originally set up my current bike with an 8-speed cassette and Silver > >friction downtube shifters. I could never get the hang of it; it was >just >too fussy to try to get the proper gear with no rubbing. Going down to > >

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
I'm shifting 7 in friction on one bike and 8 on another, and am happy with the result. Old Grand Sport shifters on Riv bar-end pods on the 7 - this combo is flawless. Campy Record friction with a Campy Chorus 8-speed derailleur on the other. The Campy has long cable travel and a larger cable

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread HunqRider
I originally set up my current bike with an 8-speed cassette and Silver friction downtube shifters. I could never get the hang of it; it was just too fussy to try to get the proper gear with no rubbing. Going down to 7-speed cassette would not offer much help, since 7-speed and 8-speed cogs h

Re: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
Recently bought a SRAM 830 8-speed chain on ebay for $13 shipped, and there are plenty of vendors selling at that price - have run this same chain on 5, 6, and 7-speeds. On a couple of bikes (8 speed friction and 9-speed index) I'm running the PC-991 9-speed hollow-pin chain, bought for $38 at

Re: [RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore
I get the same miles --2K -- out of 8 and 9 speed chains, fixed or free, one or many speed (Could this be due to high torque climbing?) Also, I've had no problems adjustment or otherwise, running 8 speed chains with 9 speed derailleurs, or vice versa; at least 8 sp chains with 9 speed LX f/r derail

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread iamkeith
I failed to mention another important consideration: If you currently have 9-speed series derailleurs, you might have a bit of trouble with an 8-speed chain, because the cages are narrower and the chain is wider. It can work, but it becomes even more fussy because the derailleur has to be pos

[RBW] Re: 9 to 8 speed worth it for better friction shifting?

2014-02-25 Thread iamkeith
I have a couple of bikes with 9 speed setups, but mostly use and prefer 7 and 8 speed. But I do this based on a preferences for the wider, more durable chain (that doesn't stretch and wear out as quickly as a thinner 9-speed), and for thumbshifters which are more readily available in 7/8 spe