On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 3:19 PM Jared Wilson wrote:
> I was trying to figure out much of this same info a couple weeks back, it
> was hard to come up with a definitive timeline based on readily available
> info.
>
> This is why I agree with changing model names when deviating away from the
> bikes
I was trying to figure out much of this same info a couple weeks back, it
was hard to come up with a definitive timeline based on readily available
info.
This is why I agree with changing model names when deviating away from the
bikes original form, it draws a clear line on what's what.
The
That Harris page is interesting. It shows a 58 cm (my size) as having a 59
cm TT. I have a couple of Atlantis brochures from around when I got mine
(2003) that show a 58 with a 58.5 TT. I can understanding rounding 58.5 up
to 59. I just measured mine @ 56 cm or maybe 56.5 cm, center to
I'll check it out Scott.
I just got off the phone with James at Rivendell and we agreed that one of
the largest changes from the first batch of MIT to the current batch of MIT
is that the 56 cm was 650B and the current 55cm is 700c. The first batch of
MIT had a shorter top tube as well making a
The Harris page has the specs on the first batch of Atlantis.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/atlantis.html#tubing
Geometry is a bit different in several of the sizes.
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:46:36 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find
Doug,
Well that would make sense regarding the number two. I just finished
reading that riv reader pertaining to the Bridgestone ode to Singer Frenchy
bike designed by Mr. Watanabe.
As far as I can tell there was a MIT version after (between) the Waterford
run and the current MIT run. I think
Hugh:
Somewhere I read that the "2" on the seat tube is a reference to the
Rivendell Atlantis being the second use of the name, the first being an
Atlantis made by Bridgestone but never brought to the US.
We need our resident Rivendell archivist (the guy with a garage full) to
comment. My
Joe,
Thanks. Jim's RR's stop at Summer 2000, there's some mention around 2009
but really less than complete historical account of the Atlantis. I feel a
project brewing.
Hugh n LA
On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 12:46 AM Joe Bernard wrote:
> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here.
Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here. Cyclofiend
(hosts this list) has a treasure trove of Riv history.
http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:18:25 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do
Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines for the
various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-? 2.Waterford and later longish chain
stay iteration Year to 2017? 3. MIT version I believe is 2018- to present.
I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall
Joe,
Op asked and you delivered. Very succinct Sir.
Hugh n LA
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Short version, others here will know more details:
>
> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. Later
> iterations gained
The first version had curvy chain stays (starlight?), steeper head angle
and less rear tire clearance.
2nd version had chain stays with one curve, more tire clearance, and plus
.5 degree on the head angle.
Both were Toyo built.
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 2:09:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard
David:
If you are looking at a specific bike, the serial number is on the bottom
of the bottom bracket, & will start with "AT..."; followed by some digits.
You may be able to get a clue from the sn. I don't know if Rivendell kept
track of serial numbers especially in the early days. The
Happy to help, man! I've been following the Riv saga from the beginning and
have become increasingly aware that a whole dang lot of time has passed,
and newer converts to these lovely bicycles don't have the institutional
memory of this stuff I carry around in my head. I know stuff!
Joe
Thanks, Joe. You provided exactly what I was looking for: a quick
evolution of *all *Atlantis' over time.
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 1:14:44 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> As pertains to the two 53cm bikes on Ebay:
>
> One (with "2" on the seattube) is an early Toyo with pointy lugs. The
As pertains to the two 53cm bikes on Ebay:
One (with "2" on the seattube) is an early Toyo with pointy lugs. The one
Matt at Crust owned is a smaller frame from Taiwan.
I'm 79PBH and could ride the Toyo bike with drops/moustache or the MIT with
pullback bars.
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021
The original poster said he "often find myself digging and digging for
specific info I need"
What specific info do you need? It sounds like you are considering buying
a particular secondhand Atlantis. For that reason you want information
about that bike, not all Atlantis' over all time. Get
Short version, others here will know more details:
Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. Later
iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were built by
Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had
mostly-flat toptubes.
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