Y'know, I do have 2-3 feet of that narrow copper tubing, bought to
customize cables for my S3X hubs. Must try it as cable ends; with glue, of
course.
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM, 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> I am unfamiliar with the Jagwi
Good idea; I may try that; thanks -- all the more in that it will look
nicer than a crushed cap. I really dislike the appearance of too-big brake
cable caps squished down onto skinny derailleur cables.
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Ian A wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> Have you considered gluing the ca
The Jagwire compressionless housing is extremely stiff - I don't think I'd
use it for anything other than cable disc brakes, which have fallen out of
favor with me anyway.
For spiral brake housing, a Dremel cut-off wheel is the final solution. I
use the fiber-reinforced one in an overkill Makit
FWIW, a good fine file can sharpen up cable cutters. Use sparingly and know
what you're doing (look at some knife/axe sharpening videos).
Cable end caps, two methods I really like: silicone adhesive (Shoe Goo
being one), dip cable end into glue tube so cable has a glob of glue, slide
end cap o
KJ
"What is this magical stuff, 'Jag Wire compressionless brake housing??'" OMG!
Thanks so much KJ! I didn't know it existed. I have wondered why no one made
it, but I obviously didn't look hard enough. Now that I do, I will never go
back either.
Guess I will retire my diagonal cutters now.
Thanks, everyone. This is just the feedback I'm looking for. Now I'm
getting excited to buy some tools!
Cheers,
Tim
Portland, OR
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I have the Shimano one for cutting and assorted files to finish the ends if
required. Also an wee ol' cool tool that I think is for shoe cobblers that
I use to open the cable end if it gets crimped. The wood handle is shaped
like a little light bulb with a 4 inch steel pointer.
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Jagwire Pro is the housing, the Park Tool CN-10 is the cutter.
After using compressionless brake housing, I will never go back to the
traditional spiral stuff.
KJ
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 12:30:36 PM UTC-4, Clayton wrote:
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> I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't
I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't crush diagonal
wound brake housing? As far as cable caps, I use small diameter copper tubing
that I bought at a hobby shop. (I cut a 2" length of brake and sis cable wire
and took them into the store to try the fit). To me, copper lo
I always solder the end of the cable and never use end caps. Stainless
cable and galvanized cable require different fluxes and solder. I use the
Park cutter on both cable and housing and grind the housing flat on the
grinder (I used a file for years until I got the grinder).
Laing
On Wednesday,
Patrick,
Have you considered gluing the cable end caps in place? It can work well. I
just crimp, normally with really blunt wire cutters, because I haven't yet
found a glue that stays fluid in the bottle when left unused. But, with the
right technique, one can glue the end caps in place and be
That's what I was going to say. The Jagwire Pro housing for both brake and
shift cuts cleanly and squarely without all this side business. I use the
Park tool and one cut, put on the ferrule and that's it.
KJ
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:19:29 AM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
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> I've fo
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:59:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Next question: what do y'all use to crimp cable ends on the ends of
> cables?
>
Regular wire cutters do pretty well if you're careful; I have a pair of old
(and somewhat dull) cutters that I use for zipties, cord, and
Clayton: can you recommend a pair of dikes? I've always used Park
housing/cable cutters (it's a combined tool, meant to cut both) to cut
standard housing, and while it does alright, I always have to finish the
housing with a file or grinder. Will the dikes cut housing more cleanly?
I will have to
> I never use housing cutters to cut cables. Housing cutters are made to
> cut SIS housing only. I use a decent quality one I bought at a bike shop.
> For brake housing, I use diagonal cutters (dikes, side cutter). I take the
> diagonal cutters and make little cuts all the way around the ca
I've found just recently that the nicer comlressionless housing from Yokozuna
and Jagwire doesn't end up with tha mangled end to the same degree that older
housing did. It just takes a quick squeeze and it's back to being perfectly
rounded.
-Justin
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A Dremel tool is a good investment and I'm always glad that I finally
bought one. But I see Bill's point about the hassle of getting it out and
setting it up etc. It depends on how you are set up to do shop work. I
have a permanent shop and can leave the Dremel out and at the ready most of
I use a pair of Channel Lock End-Cutting pliers (bought at Home Depot) for
both cables and housing (and for a bunch of other non-bike stuff like wire
fence mesh, pulling nails, etc.). I reshape the hole on the cut end of the
housing with a small nail until the cable slides through freely.
Not f
On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> I'll repeat my tip 'cause I think it got missed: Cutting the housing (Park
> cutter) with a scrap piece of cable inside helps keep the end round. A
> dental pick to finish it is still a good idea.
What I've taken to doing
FWIW, master mechanics I know use the best cutters available (Park Pro and
Felco in equal numbers) and still use a dental pick to round out the
housing ends.
I have a Dremel and love using it for many jobs. But too much time is
wasted pulling it out, attaching the cutting wheel, plugging it i
For cables I use Hozan or Park, they both work well. For housing I use a
Dremel with a cut off wheel.
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Hi Tim,
I use two cheapo tools I bought on Amazon. I'll try to link to them below,
but here's what I've learned: spend a few bucks more. Pedro's tools makes a
cable cutter that's widely available for $25 or so that I'm sure is better.
My cable cutter works okay, but has started dulling after on
Hi Joe,
I recommend getting separate cutters for both housing and cables. Get a
rotary tool for cutting the housing and a good cable cutter for cables.
Using a typical cable cutter closes the metal casing of the housing and
does not leave a square edge. In addition, you will need a awl to reopen
I've heard this phrase, "side cutter", for years. What does it look like?
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I just replaced a pair of Park CN-10's with a new pair. Mine had become dull
from cutting a multitude of other things from cables to zipties. FWIW In order
to improve longevity my LBS recommended using the CN-10 for housing only and
have a quality side cutter on hand for cables. I would avoid u
Get the expensive Shimano one.
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I've had the Park for ages, and my recent Pedro's kit purchase has a cutter.
Bike shops use separate tools for housing and inner wire, but I use one cutter
for both. The trick when cutting housing is to put a piece of scrap wire in the
end to keep the hole round and cut. Then grab a flat file to
Park CN-10 and Felco C-3 are classic choices, and should last any home
mechanic multiple lifetimes.
Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 3:10:01 PM UTC-7, Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:
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> I've been using a cheapo tool to cut cables and housing forever, but it's
> always a
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