[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-14 Thread ctifusion
I do want to clarify that I was happy to hear that there are no cable hangers on the Canti Sam/ Atlantis so I could buy them before the day I decide to build the bike (that's happened before!). And I have ridden V-brakes and I totally agree that they stop way better than cantis. But I'm a big

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Just guessing, but I think the reason for the cable stops would be the same as no canti hangers: less parts needed. Most people are going to run a Sam with shifters on bars because - as the new catalogue mentions - Riv's tall headtubes/bars motif makes DT shifters a very long reach. So you

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-14 Thread Garth
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:06:10 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote: > > > Or is there a solution I'm missing? > > > Jock Dewey / Athens, GA > Inline cable barrel adjusters . You can place them wherever you wish inline. I have the Jagwire brand. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-14 Thread Jock Dewey
Hi, Y'all: I have a slightly OT que regarding canti-SAM. Instead of the brazed on DT cable stops, why not posts for either stops or DT shifters? Using barend levers, but w/out the barrel adjusters no way to pull up or release rear D cable slack w/out stopping and fiddling with adjustment at

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-12 Thread Adam in Indiana
I have to agree, having a brazed on canti hanger "hanging" there unused while using v-brakes would bother me for whatever unsound reason... I have one of Surly's cable hangers, very similar to Nitto's. They really do an elegant job of the whole thing. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-12 Thread Rod Holland
Grant, Thanks for the clarification. I was just staring at the Sam frame and scratching my head, wondering what 3rd-party hangers would be compatible (but hadn't asked Mr. Google yet). Will ask you guys instead, much better. rod On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 11:36:05 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-11 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
We have cable hangers, diff kinds front and rear..it's just (now) one of the things you pick. When we included short adjustables, people wanted long ones, and vice versa. So now you just get the one you want, you plunk out $10 or whatever it is, and everybody happy, unless you think it should

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-11 Thread Belopsky
Shameless plug - if someone wants a nice set of silver Paul Motolite... $180 shipped for the pair, thanks :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-11 Thread Garth
I recall when Riv sold v-brakes in the past and they passed on and disappeared until recently with the Clem and mega long chainstays and 60mm tires. I wanted to try them way back when but the cable pull issue killed it for me. I ride with reverse levers and no one makes them for v's.

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-10 Thread Joe Bernard
I dig the Motolite, but I dig everything Paul Components does. My single-speed coaster-brake Dahon folder has only one brake lever for the front caliper, so I put a gold Paul E Lever on it. Swanky! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-10 Thread Drw
Hahaha aw, I like the motolite. It’s almost bauhausian and kinda badass in its function over form design.though I understand it not being for everyone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-10 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
If the Mini-moto had enough clearance for the tires I like, I would run those exclusively. Unfortunately, PAUL's long-pull moto-lite is ugly as sin. On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 7:29:23 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote: > > I think the Paul mini motos would be super attractive on a Sam. -- You

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-10 Thread Drw
I think the Paul mini motos would be super attractive on a Sam. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-10 Thread Joe Bernard
I understand (to a point) the aesthetics issue, but holy moly v-brakes really do work well. Easier to set up, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-10 Thread d2mini
I'm with you... I am not a fan of V-brakes at all as far as aesthetics go. Looks like someone ran out of brakes and slapped on a mountain bike part they had laying around the garage. Canti's or standard road brakes for me. :) Then again, I don't do heavy loaded touring where every ounce of

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-10 Thread ctifusion
Thanks for mentioning this. I'm waiting for a new Atlantis and I just realized there are no cable hangers. I have noticed how Riv has been pushing V-brakes but I just can't go there. Even if they stop better, they are just too ugly for me. I've always loved the look of cantis and you get the

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-09 Thread Brett Callahan
Joe, thanks, makes sense. As a newish Riv owner and board browser, I hadn't put that together. Cheers, Brett On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 9:34:45 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Brett: Canti-Sam is a generic term for 'not road brakes' because we're a > bunch of retrogrouches used to the name

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-09 Thread CMR
I haven't used cantilevers in years and my least favorite part of my quickbeam is actually the attached cable stop haha. It adds money to frame cost to put it there and I'd bet Riv thought any one could source the hanger from a local bike shop. In any case if any one needs a rear one I should

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-09 Thread d2mini
Yes, but that wasn't the point of the question. As I said, no big deal (cheap/easy to get). I was just curious why they weren't included (like on my old Atlantis) on a frame that is labeled as "Canti". But as someone else already mentioned, I wasn't thinking about v-brake users. On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-09 Thread Drw
are we just talking about the binder bolt rear hanger and a front headset spacer hanger? you can get those at any bike shop for next to nothing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Brett: Canti-Sam is a generic term for 'not road brakes' because we're a bunch of retrogrouches used to the name Canti-Rom :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-09 Thread d2mini
Gotcha, that makes sense. I have a set of these I wanted to use... https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-arm-cantilever-brakes On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 10:22:33 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Because you ordered a frame which takes v-brakes. If they spec a cable

[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

2018-05-09 Thread Brett Callahan
But aren't they marketing this as the "Canti-Sam"? It doesn't seem like a huge deal either way, but I'd expect at least a rear hanger on the bike. I suppose that if you do run it with V-brakes, you get slightly cleaner lines with no hanger. On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 8:22:33 AM UTC-7, Joe