Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-05-14 Thread hugh flynn
It's weird, but yer right (It's not weird that you're right, that happens often enough. Rather, it's the situation in New Hampshire that's weird). I live in northern MA, but ride up into N.H. all the time. I swear just crossing state line improves things. That whole "Masshole" thing is certainly

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-05-13 Thread Peter White
There's an easy fix for this problem. MOVE TO NEW HAMPSHIRE! Here in New Hampshire, even the guys in the pickup trucks jacked up an extra foot with the AR-15 in the rear window gun rack are extremely polite. When I occasionally go south to MA to ride with old friends I'm always intimidated by

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-05-12 Thread John Clifford
I've had people yell at me to get off the road when I was in a marked bicycle lane, too. I've had people pull up beside me on a narrow two-lane residential corridor and tell me that riding on the road was unsafe... while they were about to push me into the ditch. In both cases, it was a woman,

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-29 Thread Dave Grossman
Loving this discussion. I've had all sorts of these encounters on my commute like y'all and share similar sentiments about just ignoring them. Sometimes after a long day, it can be hard. My worst scenario used to be a guy who would ride on his motorcycle every morning by me and ride really

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-24 Thread Brian Campbell
On a Riv related note: I live in SE PA outside Philadelphia. Most drivers are pretty nice but I would get the occasional " Get off the road" etc. until... I started riding with the Riv reflective triangle on the saddle bag of my bike. Now in no way is there anything scientific about this but

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-23 Thread Craig Montgomery
I ignore these idiots with a big yawn...BUTT...if I'm actually lucky enough to get a "get off the road" (5 times at most in the last 30 years) I can't help but to retort with a "You first". Craig in Tucson On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:23:28 AM UTC-7, PG wrote: > > This is a fairly comment

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-23 Thread John McBurney
One of the guys who used to work on my bikes was a bike mechanic in Charleston had a customer who was an instructor in the Marine Recon School, a small part of the Corps similar to the Navy Seals. A passionate cyclist, he routinely carried a Glock even on the bike. He was riding down a two lane

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-23 Thread David Bivins
I used to run a cheap go-pro wannabe on my front handlebars to document my commute to/from work (downtown-ish Brooklyn to midtown Manhattan, NYC). I'd take it home and edit it to the length of a piece of music of mine (45 minutes cut down to 5 or 6). Then I'd put it on a blog I used to have. It

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-23 Thread Lynn Haas
My absolutely favorite form of harassment is when I am yelled at for blowing a stop sign that isn't there, usually at a 2-way stop. It's happened a few times. Once it was a cop. The simplest (definitely not the easiest) way to de-escalate is to ignore them. If you are in danger, remember that

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-23 Thread Philip Williamson
This is great. I think we had similar self-defense teachers: "Get away, get away, get away, get a weapon." I used to respond to a buzz or a honk-and-buzz or an agro yeall with a full-diaphragm bellowed curse-out. Now I just give 'em a big wave. Seems about as effective at changing their

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-23 Thread lconley
Back in the 70's I used to ride with a friend who had been harassed by someone with a gun once, so he started carrying a 9mm Smith and Wesson in the holster strapped to the center of the handlebars, which was legal at the time. No more harassment. Not my style, but it worked for him. We used

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-23 Thread Joe Bernard
I very much agree with Leah's approach. But alas, I am a terrible person and want to see those screwdrivers duct-taped to her bars  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread PG
Thank you all for your varied and well stated thoughts. I've never gotten into a fight in my life, including grade school. I've always been good a diffusing a bad situation. (My father was an alcoholic and a bully, so it was a skill I learned early on.) But for some reason, these three

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread sameness
Curious where you live that requires you to carry while on a bicycle? Are you in the US or elsewhere? (FYI, lest ye be smellin' a troll, I own multiple registered firearms.) Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 7:01:06 PM UTC-7, MCT wrote: > > I helped blew up iBob

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread MCT
I helped blew up iBob with mentioning I carry a firearm in my front bag. I am passive and have it in case I need it. No one knows I have it and don’t tell anyone I am riding with. It is the last resort. Don’t worry. I am properly trained and know when I am doing. The police are minutes

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
I do one of two things when someone hollers at me as they're driving by: I either ignore them or I smile and wave. The latter reaction tends to confuse them, which makes that option a lot more fun. The people doing this are a-holes, and they're not worth the emotional capital it would take

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread Leah Peterson
Jeff, that is actually brilliant. Wow. Filing this away. ❤️ Also, I hope the OP doesn’t feel we are saying “be a victim.” Nothing could be further from the truth. There are some fights worth having and some hills worth dying on. But taking on arrogant, rude people driving 2 ton steel death

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread sameness
I'm paraphrasing my old therapist, who was allegedly paraphrasing Gandhi, so Jah knows who actually said what, but: If you choose to engage, you make it about *you*. If you choose not to engage, you make it about *them*. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread Patrick Moore
I don't know how the south is in 2019, but in 1980, in rural NW Georgia, "rednecks" in baseball caps with rifles on the rack would wave friendly to one as one was jogging. I saw more traffic nastiness in Washington DC. On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:25 PM Edwin W wrote: > Here in the south I assume

Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Actually, I too find this to be true here in NM, rural and urban; its a few disgruntled suburbanites in new vehicles that have been the nastiest, not rural rednecks. On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:01 PM Garth wrote: > ... > I find most people quite friendly really I'm rather communicative on >

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread Edwin W
> > Here in the south I assume most people have guns. So I am really working > on not responding! > Not always able to, and always regretful when I respond! Like when a guy raised his handgun off the dash. He didn't point it at me or anything, but scared the living daylights out of me.

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
I was amazed how fast angry driver yelling vanished when I started smiling and waving at each car. Granted this is on rural routes and in small towns, but it works very well. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I’m with Garth on this one. Most folks are good, and the ones who are cruel are best ignored and avoided. When I was learning some self-defense, I found time and time again that the best advice is to avoid. Don’t engage. Get away if you can. If you can’t, then become the nastiest, meanest,

[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

2019-04-22 Thread Garth
People gonna say what they're gonna say.. it's not like there's anything to do about it ... just let 'em ramble on and move on. Yes but what if ... ? You could ask that all day long about everything and the answer is the same. What if has nothing to with what is, the living