[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Segway (tm): can any of youse Dahon users who use Moustache bars tell me the measurement from the center of the stem clamp to the tip of the uttermost point on the bar's curve? The Ritchey bullhorns work OK, but if I could get sufficient reach with M-bars and road levers attached at the bar's apex

[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
I got lost in the details of your question, but I think the sway alone would be problematic and the weight on the straps extensive. It is the one saddlebag Rivendell says a rack is required. I'd go with them on that. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 5:33:24 PM UTC-6, Patrick

[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-16 Thread Nick Payne
My wife and I went touring in Europe with a pair of Carradice Camper Longflap saddlebags (hers was a lowsaddle longflap) each with no support underneath. I cut plastic stiffeners to fit the inside of the bags to prevent them sagging overmuch, and that worked without any problems. We were using

[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Patrick and Nick. I've used the Medium as well as a Hoss and a Camper Longflap with no support, but I daresay that there is a weight at which those straps start to get strained. Perhaps best would be a Camper in back and the current Nelson LF on the bar. On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Pa

[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
It seems to me I've see racks of various types for such bikes. Yes. Just checked Bike Friday's site, and there's this: https://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/new_world_tourist. Perhaps it's comparable or there is a similar solution that is? If you're carrying that much weight/volume, I'd go with a

[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-17 Thread Joe Bernard
I placed a mustache bar (old design) over the stem clamp on my Dahon Curve D3 and got 24" from the tip of a shoved back B17 to the outer edge of the bar curve. I would recommend trying it, m-bars often require a shorter reach than expected. If that doesn't work I can sell you the extended thingy

Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Joe, that's very helpful. The brake hoods (I'd use road levers placed on the forward curve) should give me 2 or 3 more inches, so just right. I shouldn't need that extension. We'll see. I've been spending hand over foot or head over heels or ass over teakettle this month, and I need to sto

Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher Murray
Hello, What about one of those seat post mounted racks- the ones that clamp to the post only. That should interfere with the fold, would support the bag, and is cheap. Something like this: http://www.pricepoint.com/Brand/Titan/Titan-Rear-Bicycle-Rack.axd?gclid=CIHvko_HysgCFYgTHwodH54HKA I have

Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. In fact, I have one of those, but the problem with it is that it doesn't work well with panniers; and if I install a rack on the Dahon, it will be for the purpose of using my Ortliebs. On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Christopher Murray < chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > What

Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?

2015-10-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, and the Bagman and such things are too light to support the sort of loads I mean to carry: 30+ lb; though for short distances. On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Christopher Murray < chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > What about one of those seat post mounted racks- the ones that cla