Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:05:05 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: > > > - Even though I won't need one, I got curious and decided to check the > news regarding the Ravn progress, over on the rCog forum. Looks like that > project might be dead. Or at least its not going to be the uber-bike

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Thanks for the background, Rod. I assumed I was ignorant about some details, and probably leaving out others, and didn't take time to read all of the latest developments. I had gotten pretty excited about the bike when it was first announced, and even thought hard about getting one - before

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

What rims are you using, by the way? Here's mine, a Surly Trucker DeLuxe with Rat Trap Pass Extralights mounted > under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders; I've taken to calling it the > Monster Trucker. Like it a lot... > > > rod > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Sun Rhyno Lite rims (27.5mm width, if memory serves), on Chris King hubs. rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Thansk for the 411 on that, Rod! I'm liking the looks of the Ulv as well: http://ravn.rawlandcycles.com/#ulv On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 6:32:47 AM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:05:05 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: >> >> >> - Even though I won't need one, I

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Well, in my initial fit of enthusiasm, I guess mis-spoke a couple of things: - My rims are 517, not 519 - so same 17mm internal width (22mm external) as yours, Tim. They sure seem narrow, but I'm glad to hear they've worked well for you. - The tires have now stretched quite a bit, so I

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:21 PM, iamkeith wrote: > DO THESE TIRES MAKE MY BIKE LOOK SKINNY? > ord at the moment. Can these 519 (19mm) Mavic rims [see pic. below] > possibly give enough support for a tire this wide? My gut says "no way," > but I'd love it if someone could

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

DO THESE TIRES MAKE MY BIKE LOOK SKINNY? I finally got a chance to install and try the RTPs on my AR, during a nice, long, autumn day ride on some dirt forest service roads. I was hoping I wouldn't like them. I mean, we eventually have to reach a point of diminishing returns, when wider is

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Oh, I don't want a 29er for singletrack; I love 29ers for dirt, and think they roll better than 26er over smaller obstacles, but for singletrack I want a bike with smaller wheels. I have a Fargo, shortly to be replaced, God willing, with a Matthews Custom Cycles custom "road bike for dirt"

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What Steve said. A 29x3" tire. Not quite a fat bike (>4") but larger than your everyday 29er hovering around 2.25". A 27.5+ wheel (3") seems like the "it" size of the moment, especially as you can retrofit them into a 29er frame that can fit a 29X2.4" tire. But as I mentioned above... mass. I

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Someone has good tastes! On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > That's the very one I saw in the stand this morning, down to color. Nice > bike, but more $$ than I need to spend. > > Frankly, a bike that fits the 26 X 3 Knard would be wonderful. > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Nice bike, btw. Patrick Moore, who talked at length this morning with the Western States Jamis rep (parked at Fat Tire Cycles) about the demise of 26" and the new so-called 27.5" Plus -- Jamis has a new model for a 3" 27.5 tire; too bad I don't have $2,700. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 7:28 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Regarding 19 mm rims (are you measuring inside to inside, or outside to outside? 19 mm is *very* narrow; my Sun M14As and ME14As are 19 outside to outside, but these are exceptionally narrow even for narrow rims. I use 19 mm o-to-o rims for narrow (26") road tires. That said, the 559 M14As were

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

On 10/09/2015 09:52 PM, iamkeith wrote: Thanks. And my advice is to skip the 27.5 plus thing altogether, wait in the wings and save you pennies, and just go straight for 29+. It's kind of a good parallel to the Rivendell/Rawland/Compass experience. The mainstream industry wants to sell

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

>From my conversation with the Jamis rep this morning, I think that adding "Plus" to a designation means that the wheels and frame are made for 3" tires, and that the frame doesn't require special fat bike bb shells, bearing assemblies, or rear spacing (tho' the Jamis on display had a 148 mm OL

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

I agree; even the Jamis rep said that the "27.5+" schtick is very new, toute 2015, and that after a couple of years one will have many more choices and lower costs. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM, iamkeith wrote: > Thanks. And my advice is to skip the 27.5 plus thing

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

That's the very one I saw in the stand this morning, down to color. Nice bike, but more $$ than I need to spend. Frankly, a bike that fits the 26 X 3 Knard would be wonderful. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:30 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com < cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > I meant what Patrick said. >

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Well I didn't actually even measure them, but I'm under the impression that Mavic's naming standard is based on the *actual/interior* measurement. So, in this case, 519 is a lower grade/heavier series rim than a 719, but both are 19mm wide? I'll measure the outer width just to make sure. On

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Thanks. And my advice is to skip the 27.5 plus thing altogether, wait in the wings and save you pennies, and just go straight for 29+. It's kind of a good parallel to the Rivendell/Rawland/Compass experience. The mainstream industry wants to sell you whatever trend they're cooking, but the

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

I don't know... my regular 29ers are way heavy with a lot of inertia... there's a lot of mass there. 29+ just seems like I'd be moving a lot more rubber and metal around. 27.5+ seems a lot more reasonable to work with. Especially with a diameter/circumference similar to a regular 29er

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I meant what Patrick said. Here's a real nice B+ bike: http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/dragonslayer.html But really more bike than I need to pay the premium to get it. On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 7:27:30 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > What Steve said. > > A 29x3" tire. Not quite a

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

One possible exception: My disk specific, 700C X 30 mm outside width rims, at sub 450 grams, with Furious Freds, 360 real grams at 50 mm wide and no tubes --- pretty damned light. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:22 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com < cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know... my regular

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Wow, that Jamis does look like a nice bike. I didn't mean to send this thread so off-course, but should respond. I clung to small wheels on my mountain bikes and held out a long, long time before getting a 29er, and now kind of regret it. But then I was lucky that the 29er I did eventually

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

I like how you categorized the Jones as a mixte... never thought about it it, but yeah, you're right! On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:39 PM, iamkeith wrote: > Wow, that Jamis does look like a nice bike. I didn't mean to send this > thread so off-course, but should respond. I

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Thanks, Bill. That's what I needed to hear. Now to mount them up and try to get a few rides in during the next couple of weeks before the snow starts flying. Not much tread on these things... On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 6:07:01 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > It is my understanding

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Would anyone happen to know how the older "Compass" 26x1.75 tires compare, in terms of equivalency, to the standard and extra-light casing versions of the Rat Trap Pass tires? The website doesn't really say, and I haven't gotten a response to an email inquiry to Jan. I bought a pair

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

It is my understanding that the Compass 1.75 tires have a casing that is much more similar to the standard RTP casing. I expect the difference in width will dwarf the casing difference. In terms of equivalence I think you picked the right model (the standard RTP). On Monday, September 28,

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I'd love to try out the Switchback Hills on my Sam but have to wear my Surly Knards and CdlVs (budget tires, at about $15 apiece) before I'll be willing to spring for them. Please post pictures (and possibly actual measurements) anyone who mounts the Switchbacks! On Friday, August 28, 2015

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I have an Atlantis and worry about clearance too. Would you post your clearance results (perhaps a photo too)? Thanks, Will On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 8:12:31 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote: Just ordered a pair of Rat Trap Pass tires for the Atlantis. I think the clearance will be a bit

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

I am *so happy* this gets posted two days after I make the commitment to reign in all my spending before my wedding. SO. HAPPY. :/ -J On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:35:24 AM UTC-7, Zack wrote: my kingdom* for a fatter 700c compass tire than the barlow pass. (i do not actually have a

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

my kingdom* for a fatter 700c compass tire than the barlow pass. (i do not actually have a kingdom) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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be careful about signing any documents!!! ;-P =- Joe On 8/28/15, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com wrote: I am *so happy* this gets posted two days after I make the commitment to reign in all my spending before my wedding. SO. HAPPY. :/ -J On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:35:24

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

The 622 x 60 Super Moto is a worthy stand-in, if you can fit it. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: my kingdom* for a fatter 700c compass tire than the barlow pass. (i do not actually have a kingdom) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;menu=1000%2C2%2C103%2C212;search=super+moto+29;product=101777 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: The 622 x 60 Super Moto is a worthy stand-in, if you can fit it. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:35 PM,