Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:36 -0700, JLa wrote: > > By the way, is it possible to convert Dia Compe bar end shifters to > down tube shifters? > The Dia Compe "bar end shifter" is in fact the shifter Sun Tour sold as the Sprint downtube lever mounted on Shimano pattern bar end shifter pods. Howeve

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:46 -0700, JLa wrote: > I read from Paul's web site that the Thumbies have 26mm clamp size and > fit standard stem-clamp sleeves. But in the picture at rivbike.com > they are mounted on Nitto bars that should be 24mm diameter: > > http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:17 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> An 11-28 doesn't do much for me vs what I have in 8sp and 9sp. >> >> I have an hg50 in black and it pains me to admit it but it looks >> awful. It's like having 1 black anodized rim

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:17 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > > An 11-28 doesn't do much for me vs what I have in 8sp and 9sp. > > I have an hg50 in black and it pains me to admit it but it looks > awful. It's like having 1 black anodized rim and one silver, it just > kinda stands out. Doesn't effect th

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd ³Silver Shifters²

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce
My Ram came stock with Ultegra 9 speed (12 - 27) and bar ends and as JIm notes, I just have only to use a light touch to get them to shift. After over 6,000 miles it's all still working very well. (chain was replaced but the rest is original.) From: CycloF

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:00 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> okay - so this may be my own ignorance and vanity but: >> >> - where are you finding 7speed silver cassettes? > > Depends what you're looking for.  I googled around just now and fou

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:00 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > > okay - so this may be my own ignorance and vanity but: > > - where are you finding 7speed silver cassettes? Depends what you're looking for. I googled around just now and found a bunch of 11-whatevers and a 13-34. When they first discont

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > I wasn't successful with 8, but found 7 easy. > > Actually, I can't see the point of 8.  In the first place, the selection > of available cassettes in 8 has dwindled to the point there isn't one > I'd be interested in, other than the Har

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 09:48 -0700, Brian Hanson wrote: > I would also recommend going 8 cog on the back. I found 9 too touchy > with my Silvers. 8's easy. > I wasn't successful with 8, but found 7 easy. Actually, I can't see the point of 8. In the first place, the selection of available cass

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Brian Hanson
I would also recommend going 8 cog on the back. I found 9 too touchy with my Silvers. 8's easy. Brian On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:34 AM, William wrote: > I use 8-speed on all the Rivendells. Silver shifters with an 8speed > SRAM 11-32 cassette. I use a normal rise rear derailleur, and I can >

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd ³Silver Shifters²

2010-08-18 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/18/10 8:17 AM, JLa at juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: > Is there anyone else using the ³Silver Shifters² with Shimano 9 speed > 11-34. I¹m wondering if it¹s really so that they don¹t work together > well - or is it just about the technique? The main challanges with 9 speed gearing and frictio

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 16:11 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: > Steve: my post referred to my experience with 9 sp cassettes. I do > use Silvers on 7 speed freewheels (13-28) and 9 speed 12-27's, but > I've never tried a wide range 7 speed (like your 13-30). I asked because I couldn't make it work satis

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 14:22 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: > I have the same setup on several bikes, and had the same problem. > Even after a successful shift, the chain skipped a lot when using the > three biggest cogs on the rear cassette. On my bikes that have the > 11-34 or 12-34 rear cassette, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread nathan spindel
I like Grant's similar solution to this, found on the Shifting page on rivbike.com: "If you're grinding slowly up a hill and suddenly find that you need to shift: 1. Point your bike across the road (traverse) to lessen the slope. 2. Pedal hard for a stroke to get up a small bit of speed. 3. Pedal

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 12:52 +0200, Juhani Laitela wrote: > > Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should > figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually > wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill? > That is a terrible policy. Shifting on a hill i

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 10:30 -0700, William wrote: > I think what he meant is the general comment that the more pressure > you have on the pedals, the harder it is for your drivetrain to > execute a shift. Not necessarily so in the case of Hyperglide, which was designed to be able to shift under

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread ANDREW LETTON
I wonder if perhaps your derailleur hanger is out of alignment? You might have a shop check it. It is surprising how easy it can be to bend the hanger when the bike falls over on that side. I've had weird/poor shifting when my hanger was slightly bent. HTH, Andrew > > On Aug 16, 11:27 am, Ju

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 20:37 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: > When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a > shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes > steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on > the pedals there's too much tensio