[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2020-10-02 Thread John Johnson
I totally agree with Leah; dudes should ride bikes with girl names too! At the same time...Clem is short for Clémence, Clementine, or Clément. I do have several friends named Clementine that go by "Clem" (I live in France, Clementine is a common name here). la bise, john On Thursday, November

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
Almost always a Riv frame purchase comes with a headset, so make sure they know you have one already. If a headset is included, they may offer to give it to you separately uninstalled for future use, or maybe they'd do a gentleman's buy-back for you, and allow you to grab something else you

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-21 Thread lconley
I am triple digits beyond the weight limit, so I went with the Gus. The big question for me was the frame size. I am 6' and 83 PBH so I could have gone M or L. I would usually have gone L because of my long torso, but I wanted to keep as much clearance to the TT as possible so I went M, I also

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-20 Thread iamkeith
Here's another perspective on the weight vs. frame stiffness vs. stem type: I think I would probably prefer the stouter tubing and not-inconsequentially-bigger frame size of the large sized Gus over the equivalent Susie, but I got the later instead. Ironically, I chose this precisely

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-19 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
That’s a sharp looking Peugeot, Mark! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-19 Thread Garth
Close enough Mark, there aren't enough words to describe *that which is everything*, including the word itself :) My favorite ride, is this One it's Life Itself ! On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 7:05:56 AM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote: > > I understand the lighter tubing equals

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Schneider
So I see some people don't understand that a lighter tubing =a more responsive ride and more give when you hit large bumps.If they make a lighter tubed version there's a reason. If you plan on carrying more weight (or you weigh more)you get the heavier tubing, if you weigh less get the light

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Schneider
Hi All, Yes I did order a Susie today. I talked to Vince who was, as always very helpful. I talked size mostly, my longish PBH for my height and my large feets but relatively light weight put me on a large Susie. I'm pretty excited obviously.this will make us a 4 Riv household and my first

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler
I found the draft brochure on Grant's blahg and magnified it enough to read that he did not want to publicize the numbers because people make ill informed decisions based on them. I can understand that but if/when I pay $1600 for a frame I have never seen in person, I need something to base it

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler
Thanks, Patrick. I really like the looks of this frame. On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Weston Hein
The Gus and Susie are showing up for me on the Geometries and Sizing page on Riv's site. Looks like 71.5 degree seat tube angles and 69 degree head tube across the whole size range. I really appreciate them posting this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Chris L
Am I reading that correctly, that a 57cm Gus has a 67.5 cm effective top tube length? I thought the ETT has looked awful short in the photos I've seen but maybe that's an illusion due to most having pullback bars. On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:45:35 AM UTC-6, Christopher Cote wrote:

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler wrote: > > Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the > looks of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Christopher Cote
Rivendell has made it a specific point to not post the geometry. I think there was a diagram with numbers leaked but retracted at one point, but not 100% sure on that. Rivelo just posted this info on their blog, which at least gives the top tube dimensions. It also introduces yet another

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Andy Beichler
Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the looks of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than most bikes these days and wonder if it would make a good all rounder. On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 7:05:14 AM UTC-5, David Wadstrup wrote: > > Good morning, > >

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-17 Thread Joe Bernard
Grady: Those are good points that I would need to consider, too, if I was in the market. I liked Susie/Wolbis better on my short jaunts in a direct comparison with Gus, but I already have two trail-capable street Rivs. To go for the full traily vibe a Gus would make more sense for me. -- You

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Grady Wright
I had the opportunity to take a Gus Boots on an extended test ride in the Mount Diablo State Park. My test ride included all terrain types from tarmac to a steep singletrack decent down a rocky spine. My opinion is Gus is the most hili (mountain bikey) of the Rivendell lineup. It’s really a

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Jason Fuller
The Sam Hillborne got it right with only the unisex "Hillborne" logo - could/should maybe drop the first name altogether -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread brendonoid
I was going to buy the susie purely because I have a quill stem bullmoose I want to use on it. Wont be carrying loads and only weigh 75kg. I agree with others that I love all the names but i wish there was only one name per bike. Would totally buy the susie longbolts over the wolbis slugstone

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread esoterica etc
Deacon Patrick! Long time no hear— it’s great to see you back commenting on the forums again. Here’s hoping we’ll see lots more of your thoughtful and insightful posts in the future. The web’s not the same without you friend. All the best, ~Mark Raleigh, NC > On Nov 16, 2019, at 14:21,

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm 200 lbs and ride my fixed gear Quickbeam on most everything as my gofast MTB, much as you describe using your future hillybike. I love it. So long as you ride "light" (unweight the saddle for the technical bits), you'll do fine. I expect the Susie is beefier than the QB. Grin. However, I

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Jason Fuller
Knowing little more about the two bikes other than what you've described, I'd certainly go for the Susie if it were me! It sounds like the more lively bike, unloaded, and if you're riding at a fairly relaxed pace, I think all the more reason to inject some liveliness. Plus, the additional flex

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
The OP asked a number of questions. Here are my answers to those questions: 1. So, given my weight and purpose, which would you suggest? Given your weight and purpose I would suggest the Susie 2. It’s been my understanding that a quill stem set-up weights a bit more than threadless. Is this

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Sounds like your description mirrors the Susie ad copy rather closely... I think it's very cool Riv is introducing an updated design specifically for trail riding! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Garth
The larger diameter tubing in the Gus is functional for the purposes of stabilizing larger loads/riders. The idea of "saving weight" and it's desirability seems to ingrained in the cycling world that few question it. Do question it to your own satisfaction ! Does less weight alone really

[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-16 Thread Austin B.
I've no specific knowledge of either frame as I don't do that kind of riding. A better question might be where does a gap exist in your stable of bikes? (if you have 7 Riv's you may not have much/any gap). You cite the Hunq for the heavy loaded stuff and that you'll go load-free with no