[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-17 Thread Jeremy Till
Speculating about the new Riv MTB, my favorite pastime! I think I will end up buying one; here are my (wild speculations) regarding points #2 and #3, It seems that the new MTB will have been designed from the beginning mainly for trails, whereas the Clem was more designed as an all-rounder that

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-17 Thread Ryan M.
I just hope this new mtb is a trail bike first and foremost and not a touring bike with bigger tires. Not that using a touring bike on a trail is impossible or anything, just that a bike made for trails will have a different geometry, tubes, intended handlebar, bottom bracket height, ect. Actua

Re: [RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread Ed Fausto
Good thing Joe Bernard is taller than I am with my 79.5pbh and 5'5" height otherwise I would be buying most of his bikes sold in this forum :-) Edgar from Manila On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Less than a month until I'm perfectly happy with my two Rivs and > definitely d

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Less than a month until I'm perfectly happy with my two Rivs and definitely don't need to sell one for another new Riv no way I'm good! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread Collin A
I know the fork will be very similar to the hubbuh-hubbuh fork. So no lugs there, but pretty in its own way. We will know by 9/12 though, so less than a month! Oh goodie! On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 7:43:21 PM UTC-7, Ryan M. wrote: > > I really, really, really, would love to see lugs every

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread Joe Bernard
I think you read that most modern mountain bikey people wouldn't consider Clem a mountain bike. That's definitely not a claim Grant made. It's a mountain bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread dougP
Since we're all wishing & guessing, I'll play. My expectation would be for the MTB to be evolutionary from the Clem & not revolutionary. The elders on the list may remember that the rigid MTBs of the 80s/early 90s got tons of people out riding who just wanted a fun bike & were turned off by th

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread iamkeith
Wasn't there also a recent statement somewhere, in discussing the forthcoming mtb, that actually said "the Clem is NOT suitable as a mountain bike"? That one was curious to me. As to why you'd want the new one... or both: - We know the mtb will have more standover clearance for a given size in

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Another difference will be a threadless fork, allowing the plethora of current 31.8 stems and bars to fit. I'm not sure Clem H is going away simply because of the new MTB. I think the L is selling better so that's the Clem they're keeping. -- You received this message because you are subscri

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread Adam Leibow
here are my guesses for differences in ride/utility: 1. more standover / sloping top tube. 2. more tire clearance (as indicated above). 3. slightly more mountain geometry. On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-7, LeRoy wrote: > > Here are two snippets from Rivendell; the first from the

[RBW] Re: I'd like some 'splaining: Clem H vs. new Riv MTB

2018-08-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
LeRoy asked: 1. What is it, in general, that would make the new MTB supplant the need for Rivendell to continue making the Clem H? They are close to equivalent and carrying both costs too much 2. As a happy Clem owner, what might there be about the MTB that would make a differ