Beautiful. Both the bike and the ride.
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Paul: thanks; I actually liked the detail. It has been years -- 28 or 29,
come to think of it! -- since I was last in Atlanta, and I'm glad to hear
that the cycling infrastructure is better and that more cyclists are out on
the roads. I don't recall ever seeing a cyclist on the road throughout the
Patrick - sorry for the obscenely long post. I guess I have a lot to say
about biking in Atlanta, and some context helps.
Is the "G" name Grant? If so, there's a mansion in the Grant Park
neighborhood, which is where I grew up, that might be the one you're
remembering. Grant was a big deal
Deacon Patrick, I really like this description of rides, parts, and
experiences. I enjoy riding the same routes on different bikes with
different builds. I notice new things about the bikes, about the routes,
and about myself. I hope the smoke doesn't get so bad that you have to stay
off the
Thanks for the thoughtful response Bill. This discussion is helping me
think things through.
I think what I've been trying to say is that this bike, as I built it, is
damn great. I'm having lots of fun riding it all over the place, fast and
slow.
But the build/position doesn't let me put
Bill -- don't take my style of writing to seriously; I don't. "Irony" is a
term very familiar to me.
I simply meant that you won't be able to discover much of an "objective"
reason for liking "honking"; it's just fun for some people, and fun is
obviously as subjective as they come. There is of
Well described. The Deacon Patrick does more of it than I do.
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> I'm jumping in, God help me, so anyone on the fence about my sanity, you
> can decidedly get off now. Honking is what the guy in the wee pock marked
> near
Patrick Moore said "it's a futile attempt ".
I'm not sure I follow what "it" is. The only thing I was attempting was to
point out that fit and body position has a lot to do with how well your body
can put power into the bike. Specifically I assert that IF Patrick Moore gave
me his "most fun"
I'm jumping in, God help me, so anyone on the fence about my sanity, you
can decidedly get off now. Honking is what the guy in the wee pock marked
near half-century Toyota pick-em-up unnecessarily did as he tried to
motivate his squirrels to rev enough juice to pass me up hill. Fortunately
his
Bill -- it's a futile attempt; tease all you want, you can't understand it,
only experience it. "Fun" after all is entirely subjective; one man's fun
is another man's misery and a third man's bewilderment.
I love the discipline (trained; it's a minor art) of standing to climb; and
being conscious
Paul: I have paternal family ties to Atlanta (there is a
immediately-post-civil-war house that is now a city landmark that belonged
to family-by-marriage, whose name I very annoyingly now forget -- beings
with "G") but never lived there for any length of time. My impression of it
was that it is a
On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 9:25:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Clifton wrote:
>
> Thanks y'all.
>
> Bill, how does yours climb? I suspect it feels a lot different with the
> saddle much higher and drops. But that puts you even farther back over the
> back wheel, so I'm curious whether yours
Thanks y'all.
Bill, how does yours climb? I suspect it feels a lot different with the
saddle much higher and drops. But that puts you even farther back over the
back wheel, so I'm curious whether yours encourages taking it easy uphills
also.
Patrick, I have a feeling the climbing has a good
A beautiful example of a bike set up for true "all terrain" riding.
Rivendells in general are far more "all terrain" than 99.9% of the bikes
out there, then set up with the right tires and bags they become even more
so. Your ride looks a lot like mine, with a delicious mix of paved, dirt
and
you can bunny hop a riv that high? thats bananas!
Sometimes I wish I had gone this route instead of with my Clem, but I carry
heavy things sometimes.
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nice photos, too - whole lotta teeth in that drivetrain
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Is it possible that they're going to bring back Command Shifters??
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:58:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
Cheap, strong, and even light; just not silver. Rivendell should stock
them.
http://www.gevenalle.com/store/products/derailleurs/
Both f and r dee - ray
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:31:36 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
But otherwise... What would I be missing between a Legolas and my
canti-Rom, aside from the name?
Functionally very little difference. Maybe a couple mm in extra clearance
for the max tire size? Maybe a couple mm of
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:31:46 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:17:52 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
What would I be missing between a Legolas and my canti-Rom, aside from
the name?
???
You should think of the Legolas as a canti-Roadeo. It's lighter than a Rom
I liked them too. Sad they were most likely removed because of the recent movie
release. I'll bet they have minions scouring the web for references.
The All Rounder gets VERY nervous when I look at pictures of the L.
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They sure disappeared quickly from the RivBlug! Does Rivendell actually
make the Legolas as a standard frameset? It doesn't show up on their
website as one of their models..(?)..
Jim
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:47:01 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
...and wish I could afford! The
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 2:49:37 PM UTC-5, Jim Cloud wrote:
They sure disappeared quickly from the RivBlug! Does Rivendell actually
make the Legolas as a standard frameset? It doesn't show up on their
website as one of their models..(?)..
Jim,
RBW can't advertize the Legolas.
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:17:52 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
What would I be missing between a Legolas and my canti-Rom, aside from the
name?
???
You should think of the Legolas as a canti-Roadeo. It's lighter than a Rom
and has racier geometry.
jim m
wc ca
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But otherwise... What would I be missing between a Legolas and my
canti-Rom, aside from the name?
Functionally very little difference. Maybe a couple mm in extra clearance
for the max tire size? Maybe a couple mm of higher BB height (less BB
Drop). Fancier looking lugs and for me the
did you say Canti-Roadeo? Why do I read these things-- Oh man, my wife's
gonna kill me...
fortunately the Roadeos don't have a kickstand plate, so that's a deal
breaker. Whew. :)
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:31:46 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:17:52 PM
Ja! for some reason, I've been hankering for a Legolas these last few
weeks. These photos a) deepen the respect; b) heighten the hankerin'!
Thanks for sharing, Patrick.
--Tom in Miami (where it was a perfect day)
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:47:01 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
...and wish
That tan Legolas was bringing a tear to my earlier, too. Perfect
proportions, unusual and understated color. My size...
Philip
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On Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:47:01 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
...and wish I could afford! The perfect all rounders!
Tan would be a good color for the new QB/Simpleone idea. Just make it like
the old one, room for 45s, sell it for 1k, job done.
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Philip Williamson
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
That tan Legolas was bringing a tear to my earlier, too. Perfect
proportions,
Those are very yummy, both of them. Are they gone off the BLUG, though?
Those darn LotR lawyers had 'em removed! Boo.
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:47:01 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
...and wish I could afford! The perfect all rounders!
From Blug (sorry, don't know how to comment
Whoa, Legolas mirage!!! ;-) I'll ask Sean...
Speaking proudly/humbly as an L owner myself (3rd owner: ex-Mike
Godwin, nee Joe Brandt)... these are damned fine rides! Patrick's
suggestion of them as an All-Rounder is intriguing - it's a light,
spirited bike which handles superbly in the RBW
What's that suspended from the top of the seat tube of the tan bike?
Dave in Kansas
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:47:01 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
...and wish I could afford! The perfect all rounders!
From Blug (sorry, don't know how to comment on-blug, so y'all'll have to
hear it
Looks like a blinky light.
--Eric Norris
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On Dec 16, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Dave Redmon davered...@hotmail.com wrote:
What's that suspended from
I like that so many Riv employee builds feature black rims, hubs and other
components.
My usual finish preference runs staunchly silver, but I think I might be
coming around to the dark side.
Jeff Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia
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Empire... NICE stuff.
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:03:19 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
I was all set to get the new cycling / hiking anorak from Empire Canvas
this year. Turns out they were unable to secure a supply of fabric so will
not be making any.
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013
I was all set to get the new cycling / hiking anorak from Empire Canvas
this year. Turns out they were unable to secure a supply of fabric so will
not be making any.
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:03:04 PM UTC-6, sameness wrote:
Please report back, hopefully (for my sake) with some words
Is this just like like that Mermot dri top people seem to like?
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Michael, if Mermot dri top==Marmot Dri Clime, I'd say no. The Marmot has
a very thin fuzzy insulation layer hanging inside the nylon shell. The
Anorak, I think, is just the shell. The Marmot is light but somewhat bulky
and definitely not waterproof. I've used the Marmot for years. Both seem
nifty.
I'll be testing the hi-viz out on my trip from LA-PDX next week!
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Thanks joe b.! That's what I was wondering.
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Please report back, hopefully (for my sake) with some words on how the
seams and stitching are finished?
Maybe the pics on the Riv site were of samples or prototypes, but the one
in (Jenny's?) hand and the one next to the Coke show lots of frays and
thread ends.
From a potential durability
yep, in a taller frame, that's my dream bike.
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:14:47 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff22.htm
Looks good! Another sighting of the double-stayed Mark's Rack. Somebody
is going to have one heckuva nice bike
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Agreed really nice build.
Hugh
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:14:47 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff22.htm
Looks good! Another sighting of the double-stayed Mark's Rack. Somebody
is going to have one heckuva nice bike
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On Nov 21, 11:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Tell me about nitrile:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626131698281/
ah, the nitrile glove. as a Vermonter and cyclocross racer, these are
*the* ticket to warm fingers in very thin gloves when it's very cold
outside.
This is the first product I've seen that has potential for our rainy
Pac NW Climate.
Though temps here can drop as low as in Vermont during the winter,
they don't stay there.
Most gloves meant for winter use are too clammy for Portland use. OR
makes an overmitt that can be used alone or with a
William , It's all good. I'm just having a humbling ornery human
reactionary moment to them. My opinion reflects on no one but myself, and
that's the end of that .
Speaking of not knowing . I know what I know and that's but a
fraction of all there is *to know*. I , like all of
So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F??? Amazing!
:-)
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
This is the first product I've seen that has potential for our rainy
Pac NW Climate.
Though temps here can drop as low as in Vermont during the
Only if it's sunny…
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these
So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F
On Nov 22, 10:53 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F??? Amazing!
25degrees commuting home last night! we've been spoiled a bit lately,
and I suffered. what's really amazing is how we all adapt .. . .25
will feel warm
As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in temps
lower than
40 F. I really like riding my bike but I'm not sure I like it that much.
-JimD
On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:53 AM, cyclotourist wrote:
So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F??? Amazing!
I'm a full on coddled SoCalian. I bought my first cycling jacket last
year!
I'm such a wuss!
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:25 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in
temps lower than
40 F. I really like riding my bike but I'm
On Nov 22, 11:25 am, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in temps
lower than
40 F.
meh. it's like anything else. if you have the right kit, it ain't so
bad. and believe me, when the alternative is to not ride, you find a
I have a neoprene pair from Gator Sports that I've used for... geez,
20 years! They extend the season (and dryness) of any favorite pair of
gloves until serious winter goods are inescapable.
Andy
Pittsburgh, PA
On Nov 21, 6:16 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
I used to work as a tech in the biotech industry where 12 to 16-hour
shifts in 2-8°C (36-46°F) processing rooms are (were?) the norm. We
required dexterity to operate keyboards/keypads (try that with PI
Lobster gloves) and small control valves/switches and the nitrile-over-
woolen-liner thing was
U, I fail to see how these function better than a glove or mitt. I'm
surprised they made it to market .. as I don't get the concept and
reasoning at all . LoL !!
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hmmm.. look like hand splats.
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I like the idea because I hate having hands too hot, and have experienced
chilly digits going down a hill. Something easy on easy off, that's cheap
and packs down to nothing seems like it would fill a nice little role. A
nice set of gloves for everything but cold descents plus these for cold
I agree - they seem goofy. What's wrong with a...glove. Wow, now there's
an idea!
Bill
Louisville, Ky
By the way, the splats make sense.
On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Garth wrote:
U, I fail to see how these function better than a glove or mitt. I'm
surprised they made it to
These, umm, go with a glove. These make whatever glove into a super glove.
You've never seen a windmitt?
http://www.pearlizumi.com/publish/content/pi_2010/us/en/index/products/men/ride/accessories/0.-productCode-14341106.html
These things are great. tuck your fingers in going down hill.
Toe covers for fingers.
On Nov 21, 4:15 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
hmmm.. look like hand splats.
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I like the idea of turning an okay glove into a super glove (though I
suppose you could just go ahead and buy super-gloves). These are hilarious,
and I bet they work great. I might get some if I need to bump an RBW order
up to $150 to get free shipping. Don't analyze the economic sense of that.
You can wear a wool glove without the permanent sweatiness of a sewn-
in wind/weather layer. I kind of like it.
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Looks like another odd-ball winner! I'm all for it. I'm sick of trying
to check messages on my phone with cold digits.
-Manny
On Nov 21, 6:32 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote:
You can wear a wool glove without the permanent sweatiness of a sewn-
in wind/weather layer. I kind of like it.
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I can honestly there has never been a time in my life I would could ever
see the benefit of these to myself, and my hands get cold easily ! These
hand splats must be a California thing or something .. lol :)
In the 50's I'm fine with good ol' $2.99 brown cotton gloves, in the 40's a
Tell me about nitrile:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626131698281/
In my riding I go up and down hils. Going up its easy for me to get hot
and going down it's easy for me to get cold. Having a system that allows
me to make significant layering changes in my clothing to
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