[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-10 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
Beautiful. Both the bike and the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Paul: thanks; I actually liked the detail. It has been years -- 28 or 29, come to think of it! -- since I was last in Atlanta, and I'm glad to hear that the cycling infrastructure is better and that more cyclists are out on the roads. I don't recall ever seeing a cyclist on the road throughout the

Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-09 Thread Paul Clifton
Patrick - sorry for the obscenely long post. I guess I have a lot to say about biking in Atlanta, and some context helps. Is the "G" name Grant? If so, there's a mansion in the Grant Park neighborhood, which is where I grew up, that might be the one you're remembering. Grant was a big deal

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-09 Thread Paul Clifton
Deacon Patrick, I really like this description of rides, parts, and experiences. I enjoy riding the same routes on different bikes with different builds. I notice new things about the bikes, about the routes, and about myself. I hope the smoke doesn't get so bad that you have to stay off the

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-09 Thread Paul Clifton
Thanks for the thoughtful response Bill. This discussion is helping me think things through. I think what I've been trying to say is that this bike, as I built it, is damn great. I'm having lots of fun riding it all over the place, fast and slow. But the build/position doesn't let me put

Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Bill -- don't take my style of writing to seriously; I don't. "Irony" is a term very familiar to me. I simply meant that you won't be able to discover much of an "objective" reason for liking "honking"; it's just fun for some people, and fun is obviously as subjective as they come. There is of

Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-08 Thread Patrick Moore
Well described. The Deacon Patrick does more of it than I do. On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > I'm jumping in, God help me, so anyone on the fence about my sanity, you > can decidedly get off now. Honking is what the guy in the wee pock marked > near

Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
Patrick Moore said "it's a futile attempt ". I'm not sure I follow what "it" is. The only thing I was attempting was to point out that fit and body position has a lot to do with how well your body can put power into the bike. Specifically I assert that IF Patrick Moore gave me his "most fun"

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm jumping in, God help me, so anyone on the fence about my sanity, you can decidedly get off now. Honking is what the guy in the wee pock marked near half-century Toyota pick-em-up unnecessarily did as he tried to motivate his squirrels to rev enough juice to pass me up hill. Fortunately his

Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-08 Thread Patrick Moore
Bill -- it's a futile attempt; tease all you want, you can't understand it, only experience it. "Fun" after all is entirely subjective; one man's fun is another man's misery and a third man's bewilderment. I love the discipline (trained; it's a minor art) of standing to climb; and being conscious

Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-08 Thread Patrick Moore
Paul: I have paternal family ties to Atlanta (there is a immediately-post-civil-war house that is now a city landmark that belonged to family-by-marriage, whose name I very annoyingly now forget -- beings with "G") but never lived there for any length of time. My impression of it was that it is a

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 9:25:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Clifton wrote: > > Thanks y'all. > > Bill, how does yours climb? I suspect it feels a lot different with the > saddle much higher and drops. But that puts you even farther back over the > back wheel, so I'm curious whether yours

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-07 Thread Paul Clifton
Thanks y'all. Bill, how does yours climb? I suspect it feels a lot different with the saddle much higher and drops. But that puts you even farther back over the back wheel, so I'm curious whether yours encourages taking it easy uphills also. Patrick, I have a feeling the climbing has a good

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
A beautiful example of a bike set up for true "all terrain" riding. Rivendells in general are far more "all terrain" than 99.9% of the bikes out there, then set up with the right tires and bags they become even more so. Your ride looks a lot like mine, with a delicious mix of paved, dirt and

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-07 Thread Davey Two Shoes
you can bunny hop a riv that high? thats bananas! Sometimes I wish I had gone this route instead of with my Clem, but I carry heavy things sometimes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

2017-09-07 Thread Ron Mc
nice photos, too - whole lotta teeth in that drivetrain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: I like this company!

2014-08-21 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Is it possible that they're going to bring back Command Shifters?? On Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:58:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Cheap, strong, and even light; just not silver. Rivendell should stock them. http://www.gevenalle.com/store/products/derailleurs/ Both f and r dee - ray

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-19 Thread Leslie
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:31:36 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: But otherwise... What would I be missing between a Legolas and my canti-Rom, aside from the name? Functionally very little difference. Maybe a couple mm in extra clearance for the max tire size? Maybe a couple mm of

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-19 Thread Leslie
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:31:46 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:17:52 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: What would I be missing between a Legolas and my canti-Rom, aside from the name? ??? You should think of the Legolas as a canti-Roadeo. It's lighter than a Rom

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-19 Thread jinxed
I liked them too. Sad they were most likely removed because of the recent movie release. I'll bet they have minions scouring the web for references. The All Rounder gets VERY nervous when I look at pictures of the L. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-18 Thread Jim Cloud
They sure disappeared quickly from the RivBlug! Does Rivendell actually make the Legolas as a standard frameset? It doesn't show up on their website as one of their models..(?).. Jim On Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:47:01 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: ...and wish I could afford! The

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-18 Thread Leslie
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 2:49:37 PM UTC-5, Jim Cloud wrote: They sure disappeared quickly from the RivBlug! Does Rivendell actually make the Legolas as a standard frameset? It doesn't show up on their website as one of their models..(?).. Jim, RBW can't advertize the Legolas.

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-18 Thread Jim M.
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:17:52 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: What would I be missing between a Legolas and my canti-Rom, aside from the name? ??? You should think of the Legolas as a canti-Roadeo. It's lighter than a Rom and has racier geometry. jim m wc ca -- You received this

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
But otherwise... What would I be missing between a Legolas and my canti-Rom, aside from the name? Functionally very little difference. Maybe a couple mm in extra clearance for the max tire size? Maybe a couple mm of higher BB height (less BB Drop). Fancier looking lugs and for me the

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-18 Thread Shoji Takahashi
did you say Canti-Roadeo? Why do I read these things-- Oh man, my wife's gonna kill me... fortunately the Roadeos don't have a kickstand plate, so that's a deal breaker. Whew. :) On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:31:46 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:17:52 PM

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-18 Thread Tom Goodmann
Ja! for some reason, I've been hankering for a Legolas these last few weeks. These photos a) deepen the respect; b) heighten the hankerin'! Thanks for sharing, Patrick. --Tom in Miami (where it was a perfect day) On Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:47:01 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: ...and wish

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-16 Thread Philip Williamson
That tan Legolas was bringing a tear to my earlier, too. Perfect proportions, unusual and understated color. My size... Philip www.biketinker.com (updated style for 2014) On Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:47:01 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: ...and wish I could afford! The perfect all rounders!

Re: [RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Tan would be a good color for the new QB/Simpleone idea. Just make it like the old one, room for 45s, sell it for 1k, job done. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: That tan Legolas was bringing a tear to my earlier, too. Perfect proportions,

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
Those are very yummy, both of them. Are they gone off the BLUG, though? Those darn LotR lawyers had 'em removed! Boo. On Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:47:01 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: ...and wish I could afford! The perfect all rounders! From Blug (sorry, don't know how to comment

Re: [RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-16 Thread Joe Bunik
Whoa, Legolas mirage!!! ;-) I'll ask Sean... Speaking proudly/humbly as an L owner myself (3rd owner: ex-Mike Godwin, nee Joe Brandt)... these are damned fine rides! Patrick's suggestion of them as an All-Rounder is intriguing - it's a light, spirited bike which handles superbly in the RBW

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-16 Thread Dave Redmon
What's that suspended from the top of the seat tube of the tan bike? Dave in Kansas On Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:47:01 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: ...and wish I could afford! The perfect all rounders! From Blug (sorry, don't know how to comment on-blug, so y'all'll have to hear it

Re: [RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-16 Thread Eric Norris
Looks like a blinky light. --Eric Norris Email: campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy On Dec 16, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Dave Redmon davered...@hotmail.com wrote: What's that suspended from

[RBW] Re: I like!

2013-12-15 Thread sameness
I like that so many Riv employee builds feature black rims, hubs and other components. My usual finish preference runs staunchly silver, but I think I might be coming around to the dark side. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-22 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Empire... NICE stuff. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:03:19 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: I was all set to get the new cycling / hiking anorak from Empire Canvas this year. Turns out they were unable to secure a supply of fabric so will not be making any. On Tuesday, November 19, 2013

[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-20 Thread Matthew J
I was all set to get the new cycling / hiking anorak from Empire Canvas this year. Turns out they were unable to secure a supply of fabric so will not be making any. On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:03:04 PM UTC-6, sameness wrote: Please report back, hopefully (for my sake) with some words

[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Michael
Is this just like like that Mermot dri top people seem to like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Joe Broach
Michael, if Mermot dri top==Marmot Dri Clime, I'd say no. The Marmot has a very thin fuzzy insulation layer hanging inside the nylon shell. The Anorak, I think, is just the shell. The Marmot is light but somewhat bulky and definitely not waterproof. I've used the Marmot for years. Both seem nifty.

[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Coconutbill
I'll be testing the hi-viz out on my trip from LA-PDX next week! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Michael
Thanks joe b.! That's what I was wondering. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread sameness
Please report back, hopefully (for my sake) with some words on how the seams and stitching are finished? Maybe the pics on the Riv site were of samples or prototypes, but the one in (Jenny's?) hand and the one next to the Coke show lots of frays and thread ends. From a potential durability

[RBW] Re: I like Grant's BOM

2013-04-30 Thread Ron Mc
yep, in a taller frame, that's my dream bike. On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:14:47 PM UTC-5, William wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff22.htm Looks good! Another sighting of the double-stayed Mark's Rack. Somebody is going to have one heckuva nice bike -- You received this

[RBW] Re: I like Grant's BOM

2013-04-30 Thread hsmitham
Agreed really nice build. Hugh On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:14:47 PM UTC-7, William wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff22.htm Looks good! Another sighting of the double-stayed Mark's Rack. Somebody is going to have one heckuva nice bike -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread Patrick in VT
On Nov 21, 11:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Tell me about nitrile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626131698281/ ah, the nitrile glove. as a Vermonter and cyclocross racer, these are *the* ticket to warm fingers in very thin gloves when it's very cold outside.

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread Beth H
This is the first product I've seen that has potential for our rainy Pac NW Climate. Though temps here can drop as low as in Vermont during the winter, they don't stay there. Most gloves meant for winter use are too clammy for Portland use. OR makes an overmitt that can be used alone or with a

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread Garth
William , It's all good. I'm just having a humbling ornery human reactionary moment to them. My opinion reflects on no one but myself, and that's the end of that . Speaking of not knowing . I know what I know and that's but a fraction of all there is *to know*. I , like all of

Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread cyclotourist
So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F??? Amazing! :-) On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: This is the first product I've seen that has potential for our rainy Pac NW Climate. Though temps here can drop as low as in Vermont during the

Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread Ray Shine
Only if it's sunny… From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 7:53:39 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread Patrick in VT
On Nov 22, 10:53 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F???  Amazing! 25degrees commuting home last night! we've been spoiled a bit lately, and I suffered. what's really amazing is how we all adapt .. . .25 will feel warm

Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread jimD
As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in temps lower than 40 F. I really like riding my bike but I'm not sure I like it that much. -JimD On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:53 AM, cyclotourist wrote: So people really ride their bikes if the temp drops below 65F??? Amazing!

Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread cyclotourist
I'm a full on coddled SoCalian. I bought my first cycling jacket last year! I'm such a wuss! On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:25 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in temps lower than 40 F. I really like riding my bike but I'm

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread Patrick in VT
On Nov 22, 11:25 am, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: As a wimpy Californian I have great respect for those folks who ride in temps lower than 40 F. meh. it's like anything else. if you have the right kit, it ain't so bad. and believe me, when the alternative is to not ride, you find a

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread ascpgh
I have a neoprene pair from Gator Sports that I've used for... geez, 20 years! They extend the season (and dryness) of any favorite pair of gloves until serious winter goods are inescapable. Andy Pittsburgh, PA On Nov 21, 6:16 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-22 Thread benzzoy
I used to work as a tech in the biotech industry where 12 to 16-hour shifts in 2-8°C (36-46°F) processing rooms are (were?) the norm. We required dexterity to operate keyboards/keypads (try that with PI Lobster gloves) and small control valves/switches and the nitrile-over- woolen-liner thing was

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread Garth
U, I fail to see how these function better than a glove or mitt. I'm surprised they made it to market .. as I don't get the concept and reasoning at all . LoL !! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread Kelly Sleeper
hmmm.. look like hand splats. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GabGlzGwshgJ. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread William
I like the idea because I hate having hands too hot, and have experienced chilly digits going down a hill. Something easy on easy off, that's cheap and packs down to nothing seems like it would fill a nice little role. A nice set of gloves for everything but cold descents plus these for cold

Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread William Pustow
I agree - they seem goofy. What's wrong with a...glove. Wow, now there's an idea! Bill Louisville, Ky By the way, the splats make sense. On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Garth wrote: U, I fail to see how these function better than a glove or mitt. I'm surprised they made it to

Re: [RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread William
These, umm, go with a glove. These make whatever glove into a super glove. You've never seen a windmitt? http://www.pearlizumi.com/publish/content/pi_2010/us/en/index/products/men/ride/accessories/0.-productCode-14341106.html These things are great. tuck your fingers in going down hill.

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread Bill M.
Toe covers for fingers. On Nov 21, 4:15 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm.. look like hand splats. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread Forrest
I like the idea of turning an okay glove into a super glove (though I suppose you could just go ahead and buy super-gloves). These are hilarious, and I bet they work great. I might get some if I need to bump an RBW order up to $150 to get free shipping. Don't analyze the economic sense of that.

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread Ginz
You can wear a wool glove without the permanent sweatiness of a sewn- in wind/weather layer. I kind of like it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
Looks like another odd-ball winner! I'm all for it. I'm sick of trying to check messages on my phone with cold digits. -Manny On Nov 21, 6:32 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: You can wear a wool glove without the permanent sweatiness of a sewn- in wind/weather layer.  I kind of like it. --

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread Garth
I can honestly there has never been a time in my life I would could ever see the benefit of these to myself, and my hands get cold easily ! These hand splats must be a California thing or something .. lol :) In the 50's I'm fine with good ol' $2.99 brown cotton gloves, in the 40's a

[RBW] Re: I like the look of these

2011-11-21 Thread William
Tell me about nitrile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626131698281/ In my riding I go up and down hils. Going up its easy for me to get hot and going down it's easy for me to get cold. Having a system that allows me to make significant layering changes in my clothing to