[RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
I searched the list history and Caroline Golum has traditionally been riding a 2009 era Betty Foy. It was their only bike and a daily rider, so we may be talking about a Betty Foy (and a 105 Rear Derailleur) with upwards of 50,000 miles on it. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Friday, June 9,

[RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-09 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
Caroline You could quickly check if your chain length (# of links) is correct by using this formula: # links = 2 * {(2*ChainStay Length (inches)) + 1/4*(# ChainRing Teeth + # Largest Cog) + 1} You can measure the chainstay length or if your frame is a RBW, look it up in the geo charts.

[RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-08 Thread lconley
The reason I suggest the chain hanger is that on one of my 1x bikes, recently, the chain suddenly started not wanting to stay on the chainring (VO chainring on SunXCD cranks - low miles on both). I got to looking at it and the chain appeared to be twisted where it got to the chainring. Further

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-08 Thread Ted W
I agree with the other folks here, if it’s popping off the chainring, is it popping off inside or outside? Was the bike originally a 1x or did you do a conversion? If you converted it, did you reuse an old double/triple crank? Did you put the ring on the inside or outside of the spider? Did you

[RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-08 Thread Caroline Golum
Part of this issue too, FWIW, is my ongoing frustration with hitting specific gears with a friction shifter. If the chain slack is the culprit or the derailleur hanger then it takes care of two problems and I don't hate that! On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 3:45:43 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak,

[RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-08 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
Caroline Might want to consider installing a N-Gear Jump Stop or similar chain stop device on the seat tube to prevent the chain from coming off. Sounds like when you shift, you develop a wave in the chain which takes it off the ring John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at

[RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-08 Thread Garth
So the "chain keeps coming off the crank" . where ? (inner ring or outer or both ?) When ? (any particular cogs or all of them, terrains, bumps, etc ? ) What bike frame and how long are chainstays ? Which crank and ring ? Without knowing that offhand, myfirst thoughts are also the

[RBW] Re: ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

2023-06-08 Thread Piaw Na
If the chain is coming off the crank, my experience is (1) you need a narrow-wide chainring -- if you don't have one, you need to get one. (2) the rear derailleur might not have a clutch. (3) you might have excessive chain length. Too much chain and your 1x setup will be prone to derailling.