Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-21 Thread ascpgh
I am glad my shop days were over before the wild open market of the internet set in. We mostly had to worry about product subverting our market area commitment via dealer agreements and "promises" of protected regions; if we piped product into another dealer's area through some non-listed locat

Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Cyclofiend
As this thread began vaguely off topic, and is now verging into much broader specifics, perhaps it's time to let it end. Our discussion is unlikely to change any pending regulation, and as they say, it will be what it is. Thanks! - Jim / cyclofiend.com / ListAdmin -- You received this me

Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Anne Paulson
I agree with what you say, as far as it goes. If someone comes from another state to California, walks into Rivendell and buys one of those very fine pink possum hats, they pay California sales tax. So then if they go home and decide they want another possum hat, and they call up Rivendell to buy i

Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Tim McNamara
There is nothing unconstitutional about paying sales tax in a state where you make a purchase but do not live. It happens tens of- or more likely hundreds of millions of- times a year. If you physically make a purchase in the state of California, you will pay California income tax even if you

[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Michael
> > Quite frankly I am surprised you don't have to pay pay for site > usages/timed periods of use on internet state/federal fees, etc. They get you coming and going these days. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubs

Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Kelly
When I ran a business in Missouri as in most states we didn't pay or charge sales tax for out of state purchases. I love wording "fair tax" NOT... and most sincerely don't see this as the Feds business. Compliance would be easy as most accounting systems already have multiple tax fields avail

Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Jan Heine
True story: Customer walked into local bike shop. Looked at a wheelset from a local distributor (Seattle Bike Supply). Decided to buy the same wheelset from a mail-order shop in Florida. The price is the same, but customer doesn't pay sales tax, and shipping is free on orders over a certain thr

Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Ron Mc
I can see this thread getting political very fast, but paying sales tax in the state where you purchase but don't live (counts as interstate commerce) is unconstitutional. Keeping up with sales tax for other states is an unfair burden on a vendor, making fair tax an oxymoron. I believe the siz

Re: [RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Tim McNamara
Seems to me the simple thing is that sales tax is paid to the state where the sale is rung up- if I buy from Riv, I pay CA sales tax. If I buy from Jim, I pay MN sales tax, etc. Tim On May 20, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > As a small operation that does some mail order, I don't

[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Nick Worthington
I'd have to find the actual legislation, and check, but I believe there is a threshold annual sales amount. Smaller businesses, I think it was below a million in annual sales, are supposed to be exempt. Nick W. On Monday, May 20, 2013 9:42:45 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote: > > Despite opposition in th

[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread tdusky
States need money, you should see the roads here in Michigan. I need to sell my custom because I can only fit 27mm tires with fenders. Tom Dusky Huntington Woods, MI On Monday, May 20, 2013 12:42:45 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote: > > Despite opposition in the House to internet sales tax such a "fairness"

[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Hiawatha Cyclery
In most/all states that have sales tax, you are supposed to report out of state purchases and pay taxes on them, as Michael H scrupulously does in VT. People who order out of state to avoid taxation are breaking the law, though enforcement is almost non-existent. I have had customers ask me for

[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread jpp
In most states I believe you are already supposed to do this. It is just closing a loop hole that exists. Sorry dudes but sales tax is just a reality and it was only a matter of time. On Monday, May 20, 2013 12:42:45 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote: > > Despite opposition in the House to internet sales t

[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Hechmer
In Vt, I am legally liable for sales tax on equipment purchased on the internet or through catalogs. When I do my income taxes I comb through my CC statements, calculate the taxes due and pay them. So, for me it might be easier. As a general rule of thumb I try to do business locally whenev

[RBW] Re: Internet sales tax & Rivendell...thoughts?

2013-05-20 Thread Edwin W
In TN that would add 10% to all my Riv orders, something I probably will take into account. While that might not be good news for Riv exporting its goods to others out of state, the recent USD/Yen exchange rate trend has got to be good news! In mid 2007 a dollar bought 120 yen. In late 2011 it o