[RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-13 Thread Wildcat96
FYI, I run Fatty Rumpkins (they measure a true 41mm) under SKS P50 Longboards on my Sam. The P50's were a pretty tight fit when I first installed them, but I was able to get at least a couple of mm of additional clearance under the front sidepull by using Sheldon's Fender Nuts and mounting

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-13 Thread Tim Gavin
I also used a Sheldon's nut to mount the tab to the back of the fork. It resulted in better clearance than with the daruma. I also bent both front and rear tabs to effectively shorten them and bring the fender as close to the bridge as possible. I'm running 45 mm VO fenders over 38 mm tires, so

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Jan Heine
Compass tires have about the same tread thickness as the Grand Bois for the 700C models, and a bit thinner tread that the (somewhat excessively thick) Grand Bois 650B models. In my experience, thicker tread doesn't really improve flat resistance, at least in the range we are looking at. (Very

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Patrick Moore
This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently get no more flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking all the different kinds of flats into consideration, 99.9% of which are from goatheads, this over 25 years of riding in Albuquerque. Perhaps this isn't generally speaking. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2014 11:35 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently get no more flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking all the different kinds of flats into consideration, 99.9% of which are from goatheads, this over 25 years of riding in

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Though they are generally present throughout the SW. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 11/12/2014 11:35 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: This isn't true in goathead land, ABQ, NM. My 23s consistently get no more flats than my 32s on the same routes, taking

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2014 06:05 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Though they are generally present throughout the SW. As I said, Hell. By definition, any place where goatheads are generally present qualifies in my book as Hell. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I'm pretty consistent with goathead flats across all my tires. Basically once a week no matter what I'm on (32mm-40mm so not the greatest range). For this reason I'm looking seriously at a tubeless set up that Fred B mentioned on 650B list: WTB ChrisCross http://www.wtb.com/products/chriscross

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread Patrick Moore
I think tire savers make a difference, no matter what width the tire. Also, tubed or tubeless, as long as you have 50 psi in your tires, consider 2 oz of Stan's. As I declaimed ad nauseam 18 months ago, the Parigi Roubaix got goathead flats every 2-5 miles. After Stan's, none - well, one only,

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-12 Thread jeffrey kane
'ol Lance raced those seven Le Tours and only had one flat that I can remember ... flats, drywall screws, radial belt wires and nearly invisible shards of glass all live together in a world graced or cursed by luck, if you ask me ... but then again, I don't know squat about goatheads from

[RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread Shoji Takahashi
1-2cm clearance all around sounds like plenty of room. Are you using new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick up pebbles and small rocks. After using them for a while, the rocks-in-fenders have diminished. On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:58:24 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

[RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread lungimsam
Couple hundred miles I would guess on these Hetres. I thought about that too. Though I have the 1cm clearance fender to tire, the stay eyelet nuts are still only 2-3 mm from tire. The lock washer and flat washer on them take up about a mm of space I would guess. Are they necessary since the

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread Eric Norris
FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s rear tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) snagged both of these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m holding in a gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; the

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread Ron Mc
heavy gauge wire is the second-worst hazard on the road - the only thing worse is a y-shaped stick that will plant itself firm and impale your tire as you roll over it. Both of these are reasons to carry fold-up spares. On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:09:26 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread hsmitham
Eric, I don't buy Jan's Hetre's flat resistance. He can come ride em in LA and see how he fairs. I know, I know others swear by them. It must just be my bad luck. Hugh Los Angeles, CA On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09:26 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread Eric Norris
I’ve been to Seattle and ridden there. The roads don’t *seem* to be magically free of debris, but that’s the only way to explain Jan’s run of good luck. The GBs are nice tires—I really like them—but in my experience they are just as prone to flatting as anything else out there. Maybe more.

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread Hugh Smitham
https://flic.kr/p/pgpfKC https://flic.kr/p/hUrN6m The first link is the Hetre's casing don't see anything special and doesn't seem substantial. When mounted They rode great. I do try to avoid debris but I'm not fanatical about it, generally more concerned with other large obstacles . I rode them

Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

2014-11-11 Thread Jim Bronson
The new Compass tires seem to have a bit more tread thickness than the Grand Bois tires, IMO. I think they are a little more flat resistant than the Grand Bois. That is not to say that you won't get flats, but I think it's a reasonable amount. On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Hugh Smitham