IMHO, the big downside of low-trail is how "light" the steering is or
unbalanced the bike feels when riding sans front load.
On Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:21:13 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
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> Charlie:
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> Congrats on enjoying the handling of your new ride. You are correct that
> we sometimes over-
I too love my Riv, but nothing needs to be wrong about high trail or bikes
designed around it in order for low-trail to also be a good option. The
decades old design of a low-trail geometry is popular these days largely
due to the work of JH @ Bicycle Quarterly. I think Jan's research and a
gr
> I've never been on a bike that didn't wander a bit on climbs, and I've
> always just internalized that as "I always wander a bit when riding up
> hills". I guess once I get my technique dialed-in (I mean, I've only been
> riding for 40 years or so), I'll start working on the bike...
>
Same
Joe you are correct about the light tubing and shimmy, that, combined with
low trail seems to cause it. Precisely why I didn't order a Boulder
frame at my weight I'd have to pay extra for heavier tubing. These
frames seem to be built more for a specific purpose and rider weight than
for gen
To perfect your analogy, I think you meant Fender vs. Gibson. :)
Ryan
On Monday, December 10, 2012 5:42:23 PM UTC-8, William wrote:
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> Toshi
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> I'm like you, I think. As I think you know, I've got a Hilsen and a
> Rawland. Unlike people who say the difference between high trail and low
> t
In reading all this trail business, of which I am very uninformed, could
I assume that a low trail bike would make a less desirable "trail" bike,
i.e. off road bike? Or low or medium or high trail doesnt really make a
difference. thanks -Mike
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Philip Willi
I have two bikes (really I have 4 bikes), a low trail touring bike, and a
medium-high trail Quickbeam. They're both fixed, and usually run a 72" gear.
They're both great bikes. The main difference seems to be that I can point my
hips on the Quickbeam to turn the bike, and the Ross ignores input
"This post was written by my good friend Steve Goodman, who said he thought
he'd written the perfect Rivendell Owners Bunch forum post.
"I told him, no, he hadn't written the perfect Rivendell Owners Bunch post,
because he didn't mention Lance..., planing..., carbon..., or paleo."
Philip
www.bik
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM, charlie wrote:
> The helmet story was mentioned to make a point about keeping ones hands
> on the bars. *I thought it humorous* that the other rider mentioned my
> lack of helmet all the while riding *no handed* but.. actually I was
> responding to Williams c
The helmet story was mentioned to make a point about keeping ones hands on
the bars. *I thought it humorous* that the other rider mentioned my lack of
helmet all the while riding *no handed* but.. actually I was responding
to Williams comment about his Hilsen."my* Rawland does shimmy* c
Cycle-chic: Empowering or repressing? Please discuss.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Kelly wrote:
> This thread is now complete.. We had trail and now helmets... :)
>
> Wait wait.. I can make it complete without anyone's mother getting run
> over by a freight train..
>
> Politics...
>
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This thread is now complete.. We had trail and now helmets... :)
Wait wait.. I can make it complete without anyone's mother getting run over by
a freight train..
Politics...
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The idea of a bike that shimmies would not give me confidence..but then
I never ride without at least one hand on the bar. I remember getting the
stink eye from a fellow rider on the local bike path because I rode without
a helmet ( he mentioned I should have one on too) but he was riding wi
Toshi
I'm like you, I think. As I think you know, I've got a Hilsen and a
Rawland. Unlike people who say the difference between high trail and low
trail is night and day, my experience has been a bit more nuanced. In
summary, I'm like Esteban, in that for me "they both work".
The low-spee
I dunno what this wandering is either. Is it like when you are
stopping at a stop light and you are going nearly 0 miles an hour and
you have to turn your wheel from side to side to keep your balance?
Maybe the hill is so steep that your bike wants you to ride sideways
to cut the gradient (Is that
I've never been on a bike that didn't wander a bit on climbs, and I've
always just internalized that as "I always wander a bit when riding up
hills". I guess once I get my technique dialed-in (I mean, I've only been
riding for 40 years or so), I'll start working on the bike...
Shawn
On Saturd
I love my Pelican, Ebisu, and Nobilette low-trail bikes. It works.
I love my Rivs - mid-trail. Totally works, too!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/8258743340/
Frame design is more than trail. Grant's is a complete package - and has
always, in my experience, held the qualities of sta
I would be very interested in learning more about how position, rider
size and weight, tire width and pressure, and for that matter pedaling
style affect handling for a given geometry. My wandering problem on
the Sam was with heavy rear load and nothing in front; and my favored
position is rearward
Charlie:
Congrats on enjoying the handling of your new ride. You are correct that
we sometimes over-think our bikes. The ability of Rivendells to
accommodate a wide range of tire sizes, racks, luggage, baskets, ets., and
still handle well is quite amazing and a testament to Grant's experience
Ride-wise, I think the Sam is great. I wonder if the floppy feeling with
certain loads is size based. I ride a 48cm, and generally keep a small
saddlesack with a tool roll, spare tire, pump, some food, some extra
clothing and possibly another water bottle in it. With that load, the only
time I
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