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Well, A1 happened to have a Mark's in stock. Now they don't. :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Jon- Congrats on the Sams! You can get the Nitto M18 through QBP for $135. It would fit great on a Sam, just be mindful that the tang to the brake bolt isn't that strong (as discussed in another thread). A safety strap to the handlebar is recommended. On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Jon Craig

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Only a very few Nitto products are carried by QBP. One of the front racks is for canti bikes only, and the other, not sure if it would fit. Only Rivendell is allowed to sell the Mark's, since the Mark it's named for... is a Rivendell employee. :D On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 9:08:22 AM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

I'm fairly certain QBP carries Nitto products if you have credit at your LBS. I'll mention again that Soma's aluminum front rack at around $30 or so would definitely do the trick. Check with your LBS about what other distributors they have. I know mine has accounts with several, some take longe

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

That's good - but again - I have a huge credit at a LBS so anything from QBP (inc. VO stuff) is "free" to me. That's the problem. But the V-O rack just would not work. Ah well. On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 8:55:45 AM UTC-4, Minh wrote: > > > And as far as cost, i've seen Mark's racks trade h

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i had to go downstairs and double-check my VO rack install, i bent mine to curve up and over the caliper and mounted it to the frontside of the fork (between the brake), but my bike was an old one so getting it under the fork crown would not have been possible. this is the hazard of racks, no

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I just ordered one of the VO constructeur racks, I haven't installed it yet, just a dry fit.Mine is taking the place of a Mark's rack. Anyway, that tang on the VO rack is designed to fit a mount under the steering tube or to a Daruma (which was included in mine)I can't recall if the Sam has

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Eh, it wasn't the best decision we've ever made. But, Sams are available in the quantities they're available in, and basically only once a year. Bicycling together is an important fun/bonding activity for my wife and myself, and our prior bikes were not proving to be the fun, carefree experien

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If it's not necessary immediately, keep an eye on the list. Good stuff with generous prices pops up all the time. And if you can drop 5k on bikes at one time, you're better off than most people I know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

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HAHA, that should do the trick. Though apparently I'm in a different income bracket than the rest of the people here, as after spending $5,200, the $140 for a rack seems expensive... as I just spent $5,200! :D On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:09:16 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 06

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

On 06/23/2016 06:57 AM, Jon Craig wrote: I'll just use the rear rack for now, and perhaps wait until a Mark's rack doesn't seem expensive. Perhaps if you check on prices for a custom rack... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gr

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Well that was a disaster. :D Yeah, the VO constructeur front rack won't work on a Sam, at least not for someone with my level of skills (admittedly next to nil!) The shape of the tang just doesn't work. It's got that down-bend in it, that when placed through the brake caliper, causes the whole

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Jon, I have a VO Constructeur rear rack on my Bleriot. Depending on fit, you may or may not have to cut the bottom struts, as someone else here has mentioned. Since your Sam is 700c, the bottom hole may work, then no cutting. The steel is hard, but you should only need a hacksaw with a good b

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Eh, it was either this or wait a long time, as like I said, I have a sizable credit at one of my LBS's - so I can get whatever I want for "free" but it has to be something QBP has, which basically means the only thing that really suits is the VO constructeur. I guess I'll see how it all fit

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

A Linus Lunch Rack should work well. http://www.linusbike.com/products/linus-lunch-rack-1 On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 5:46:12 AM UTC-7, Jon Craig wrote: > > > > >

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i've not installed on my sam, but have installed on a side-pull-braked bike, for me (and it was a similiar sized bike to my sam) i had to cut some of the bottom tangs off as i wanted to use one of the holes farther up and the tangs interfered at the drop-outs. you also have to bend that fork

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O_o Sounds advanced. I'll see how it looks/works/feels "stock" first. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 8:37:00 AM UTC-4, drew wrote: > > You could also use the surly hardware with the vo constructeur to go > laterally to the midfork eyelets and cut off the tang altogether. -- You received this

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You could also use the surly hardware with the vo constructeur to go laterally to the midfork eyelets and cut off the tang altogether. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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Yeah, I'm not going to put much on it. 5# max I'd say? If that. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 8:08:35 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote: > > Jon, although it has the reinforced struts to the bottom of the fork leg, > i would still watch the amount of stuff you put on it, since it's only > connected to

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

another good Tubus vendor - http://thetouringstore.com/ a really good idea is *google photos* and see where they lead you...

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

John, Having mounted a VO Constructeur rear rack on a Bleriot, I will say that you may end up wanting to cut the ends of either the struts or the top tange, depending on fit and aesthetics. And I can attest that the steel is hard. But it's doable with a hacksaw and file; a Dremel tool comes in

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Very nice bikes - congrats. Take your time, gather your information, and think a bit before you spend. I took 6 months and evaluated all the choices before I put a front rack on my CX bike. Cheap often means cheaply made. I agree with the Tubus votes, and believe racktime is also made by Tu

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Jon, although it has the reinforced struts to the bottom of the fork leg, i would still watch the amount of stuff you put on it, since it's only connected to the fork crown with a tange, so it's not laterally reinforced. The rack was designed with small rando bags in mind. On Tuesday, June 21,

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According to V-O's site they come pre-drilled now. Yeah, I don't want to try to drill steel. :D It comes with the daruma as well, so if I need it, it's there. BTW - Sam's brake bolt comes in through the back of the crown rather than bolting through the front - it's an odd bolt. I wonder if

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

The vo constructeur will work fine, but I'm not sure it fits your plug n play requirements. You may need to cut the bottom mounts, bend the tang (if you want it thru the brake bolt), or use a daruma (if you don't). That being said it's a cool rack that fulfills a unique gap in front racks. Ligh

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Welp, I'll find out later this week if it works. :D I have a large credit at one of my LBS's so I ordered up a VO constructeur front rack to try out. Hopefully it'll fit easily enough. On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:43:44 AM UTC-4, Jon Craig wrote: > > Has anyone installed a V-O constructeur fro

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

I have landed in the same space as Will. I am running a black tubus rear rack on my AHH. My favorite front rack option is the nitto front rack. There is not as much of a premium going to the nitto in the front and you can pick them up used on the RBW forum. I like the small nitto rack coupl

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I've done front racks, Wald baskets, and such... the solution I evolved to was a Tubus rear with Ortlieb bags. Why? 1) Rivs handle better with rear loads. It a design thing. 2) small front racks with large basket overhangs are fussy. 3) front racks have very modest capacity (unless they are th

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The reason I don't have any specifics is that I am literally trying to compile a list of *all the front racks that fit without bodging, and that are cheaper than Nitto.*$5,200 is a lot of money; our budget is blown for a while, so this won't be a soon-purchase. I just want to know what works.

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Jon, congrats! The reason Nitto is well regarded is because the quality is really high, which matters the more times you ride your bike with more things. I believe all Nitto racks are still brazed by the same woman in Japan for the past decade or maybe even two. I know you bought two Riv's whi

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

+1 This is your best low cost option. On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 11:15:31 AM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote: > > Soma makes an aluminum front rack that would fit the bill - it's a good > platform for a Wald basket. > David > Chicago > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 7:46:12 AM UTC-5, Jon Craig wrote: >

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

The reason Nitto is well regarded is because the quality is really unmatched IMO anywhere on the market, which matters the more times you ride your bike with more things. I believe all Nitto racks are still brazed by the same woman in Japan for the past decade or maybe even two. Also made out o

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Soma makes an aluminum front rack that would fit the bill - it's a good platform for a Wald basket. David Chicago On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 7:46:12 AM UTC-5, Jon Craig wrote: > > >

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Jon, If you want us to help you, you need to help us. People here are going to recommend the Nitto options because many of us have tried the other options and ended up with Nitto. RBW design their bikes with those racks in mind, so generally speaking they are the closest to plug and play--not

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Nittos are just way, way, way too expensive. On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:12:19 AM UTC-4, Ryan Thompson wrote: > > I have a Cheviot, which has the same brake setup as your Sam, and use > Mark's Nitto Rack with a Wald basket. Can't go wrong as the rack was > specifically developed for Rivendel

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Having a caliper brake doesn't preclude mounting a rack at the fork crown. In fact, it's handy because it means you already have a bolt! I have my Pass & Stow rack and a fender mounted on my Sam using the front brake bolt: https://flic.kr/p/dURLir -John On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:00:38 AM

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

I have a Cheviot, which has the same brake setup as your Sam, and use Mark's Nitto Rack with a Wald basket. Can't go wrong as the rack was specifically developed for Rivendell's with caliper brakes. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r1.htm Ryan On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:00:38 AM UTC-4, Jo

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Jon, could you be a little more specific on what you're looking for? a small rack, a full-size rack? what do you want to carry? a trunk sack? panniers? all of my experience is with the nitto options, so can't comment on alternatives--i'm also a bit of a color matcher, so putting a silver nitto

[RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

Any front rack that fits easily without a lot of bodging would be fine. I usually would want silver, but since my rear rack is a spare Trek that I had around (which is black), a black front rack would balance it out. As far as size, anything! I'm really just trying to gather a list of what fit

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"WTB" usually means "Want To Buy." I don't necessarily want to buy one, I just want the info on what has worked for people, for future reference. Budget is totally depleted for now (2x Sams is a lot of money!) On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 9:36:01 AM UTC-4, Howard Hatten wrote: > > Jon > Congrat