[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-14 Thread Joe Bernard
"I don’t think the disapprovers even think they are disapproving." It's just a bike pricing discussion. I don't disapprove of his price, I'm just discussing why it may be too high to generate a sale. Heck, a while back I posted one here so high I was SURE it wouldn't sell, and when I almost imm

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Also, I think Steven Sweedler is right, he doesn't seem a motivated seller. I've done this: posted a frame or bike at an "if I can't get this much for it I'd rather keep it" price. That custom is really nice and I suspect the seller is happy to keep it around if he can't make a killing on it, an

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Marty, someone asked in the third comment on the thread "Why hasn't this sold?" after the second comment was that it had been around for years. To me that's a conversation starter so I joined the conversation because Riv values interest me. You're not the seller and this isn't a FS thread, I per

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-14 Thread Joe Bernard
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-14 Thread Steven Sweedler
Marty, don’t be offended by the criticism. Its not directed at you. This bike has been for sale for quite awhile, I seriously considered it months ago, but much prefer to buy framesets rather than completes. Parting out is certainly an option that I considered, but never thought I could recoup $15

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Marty Please don’t stop posting links to Rivendell for sale. People just like to express their disapproval sometimes. I don’t think the disapprovers even think they are disapproving. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-14 Thread Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA
On Saturday, March 14, 2020 at 12:39:51 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It's a tall frame for 26" wheels in a 650B/27.5 world. Which was supposed > to reference an earlier post I made, but I forgot to make the connection. For *you* Joe. Maybe not for someone else. This is close to something I

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a tall frame for 26" wheels in a 650B/27.5 world. Which was supposed to reference an earlier post I made, but I forgot to make the connection. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rec

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
It’s a tiny frame. Ryan Hankinson West Michigan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread Joe Bernard
*it's a tall frame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit h

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Correct Drw, which brings us back to it's a talk frame with out-of-vogue wheels. The reality about production Rivs you usually know if you fit or not, and it's pretty hard to stipulate one made to Grant's specs at Waterford, Toyo or Taiwan is inferior in any noticeable way to a custom. I'm get

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread Drw
Yeah I have owned 2 used rivendells that came with better or similar parts that were about 1000$ less. Of course those were deals I pounced on, but feeling like you’re getting a deal is part of making a sale. Also I’m not sure that these customs, though they cost much more to make/buy (than say

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread Joe Bernard
The problem isn't so much that you can't part it out as that it's a lot of hassle. Fine if that's your thing, but there's so many other pefectly good complete Rivs out there for that kinda money. I can see why he's not getting much interest. -- You received this message because you are subsc

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Back in the late 90s and early 00s, when I was a bike mechanic and graduate student, parting out bike from eBay and craigslist was one of my income streams. When I got a 'real job', I'd still buy complete bikes and part out the build to get a frame for free. Don't people do that anymore? Peo

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread Wyatt
Yeah, the frame is great, but I wouldn’t want that build. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To v

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-13 Thread S. Greco
I think lots of people just don't like the thought of paying top dollar for a bunch of parts they may not want / the seller clearly doesn't want. I had offered the seller 2K for the F/F/HS last year, he seemed offended by the offer. On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-4, Marty Gierke,

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Mike Godwin
I've seen that bike and the sellers others on LA craigslist. He has some really nice bikes. The craigslist ads had better quality photos. Some prices were good, some not so good. Mike SLO CA On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 7:12:15 PM UTC-7, Christopher Cote wrote: > As a point of reference, th

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Christopher Cote
As a point of reference, the ""Doc" Steve Custom Special" from Riv is $2200. I'd expect to pay more for a bike from Riv, than for one from a private citizen. eBay means potentially a slightly higher price than here, which should be slightly more than Craigslist or FB marketplace, IMHO. BTW, inte

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread maxcr
I agree, better photos and it’ll go for $1,500-$2,000 depending on urgency. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Joe Bernard
So now with my recalibrated market sense: I think it struggles with being a tall 26-inch-wheel bike in a 650B/27.5 era, and the convoluted parts mix. It'll sell eventually if he really wants it gone, but his price will need to budge a bit. -- You received this message because you are subscrib

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Actually I misunderstood it as an All Rounder..this is a more recent full custom, not a production Waterford. I could see it going for $2k. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Karl
I think Joe is pretty spot on from the All Rounder and All Rounder frame I just sold. Getting ready to put a custom road frame up and will be happy if I get 1k for her! Karl Nashville,TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA
What are you paying for your $1500 custom Joe? I think the asking price is very fair. Seems like a good way to *save* $1500 on a classic Rivendell to me. The BG cantis alone ran $300+, not to mention the rest of the build. Lower the saddle and bars (looks a little goofy that high) and take som

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Mark Roland
It's true you lose a lot as soon as you ride it home, but strange that this would be worth less than a Clem Smith Jr. Not that the Jr. isn't a great bike, but it is TIG welded, MIT, with inexpensive parts (except crankset). Sure, the Riv 26" has some beausage, but still looks fantastic, and I do

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Joe Bernard
It's too expensive, period. I understand why he wants that kinda cash, but that's a $1500 bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread maxcr
Why hasn't it sold (other than it's too expensive for the state it's in)? I thought the 26 all-rounder is everyone's dream bike. I asked and it fits 2" tires which sounds perfect. I'm so tempted to make an offer. Max On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 5:17:53 AM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote: > > Poo

[RBW] Re: PSA 58cm Rivendell Custom 26"

2020-03-12 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Poor guy's been trying to sell this bike for the past year or two - it's been popping up fairly regularly. I've been in touch with him in the past; the frame essentially is a custom-made All Rounder that looks to be in good shape. Kevin Lindsey Alexandria, VA On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 3:51