Interesting. Thinking about my own bikes (700c Surly LHT, 26 Surly Trucker
DeLuxe, old 26 GT Karakoram), I see a blending of the influences of three
men: Grant Petersen, Jan Heine, and Peter White. It has been argued that
the Surly LHT geometry was broadly derived from the Atlantis; whether
LOL!
For the record: My Grant-designed (just for me!) road bikes are my design
benchmarks. (But I keep my bars properly low.)
On the Lovely Bicycle blog's current entry, there is a formally unrelated
but materially quite pertinent discussion about bar height and overall
bicycle design, to which
The Trangia 28 mini set works great for me.
http://www.amazon.com/Trangia-327508-28-T-Mini/dp/B000LN7HUC/ref=pd_sbs_sg_4?ie=UTF8refRID=0FAPDACAGVQHW094JDSK
On Monday, June 23, 2014 8:36:21 PM UTC+3, Mathew Greiner wrote:
Thanks, all. I do enjoy the discussions here.
For those sensitive to
I own neither a Riv nor a majority of the parts that Riv sells, but I subscribe
to much of Grant's philosophy (not all of it). I see a lot of general content
overlap between the Bob, 650b, Riv and Rawland lists, and I peruse them all.
Anton
ridingthecatskills.com
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Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you
use it, but find your own path.
Yep.
Though with a hint of I thought about this for a long time and tried a lot
of stuff out, and so it's probably as close to right as you can get if you
accept the same premises I started
Um ... pass the kool-aid, please.
L
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:02:29 AM UTC-4, Mathew Greiner wrote:
I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate
at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the
trick, but that's something I don't
Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner.
-J
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yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers.
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:04:53 AM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner.
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Thanks, all. I do enjoy the discussions here.
For those sensitive to the whiff of neurosis or of an almost obnoxious
admiration of Rivendell, well, that might be part of it, but I justified
asking the question because it seemed like it might generate some
interesting dialogue.
As for how
I'm pretty thrilled with the Esbit and use the titanium bowl that Riv
offers to heat water. I also use a few wood matches leaning over the fuel
pellet to give the flames a slightly wider disbursal (I hope that makes
sense). Seems to work better that way. If you have high winds you may
need some
Gee . . . let me think . . .. ho hum ho hum . . . .
If you are HERE . . . . you qualify :)
This isn't rocket science ;)
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On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers.
*b*
;-)
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Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you
use it, but find your own path.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com
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On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
yep, grant is the leader and we're all just
yet here you remain
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:29:08 PM UTC-5, Robert Barr wrote:
Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you
use it, but find your own path.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily...@gmail.com
javascript: wrote:
On
Now we're getting deep. :-)
dougP
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:10:03 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
Gee . . . let me think . . .. ho hum ho hum . . . .
If you are HERE . . . . you qualify :)
This isn't rocket science ;)
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The thing which makes Riv owner such a broad title is that RBW has always
been a company which sells parts and clothing and stuff that establishes a
certain aesthetic and approach to cycling which is readily identifiable as
Riv like. I've owned Riv frames in the past, and currently have an
You certainly love Rivs and Rivendell. I was much the same way before I
bought my first riv. I had/have a Jamis Aurora totally decked out with Riv
stuff, but I didn't consider myself a Riv owner until I actually bought a
Rivendell frame and put the bike together.
I don't like labels at all,
Nutty enough to see value in Rivy stuff. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, June 23, 2014 5:45:04 AM UTC-6, RJM wrote:
You certainly love Rivs and Rivendell. I was much the same way before I
bought my first riv. I had/have a Jamis Aurora totally decked out with Riv
stuff, but I didn't
Hey All,
I say it's plenty good enough to ride something 'Riv inspired'.
Smiles,
Chris
Redding, Ca.
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Matthew, I rode a Cannondale touring bike for some years and gradually
added Riv bits when my wallet could afford them. I bought a B17, a seat
post, some Nitto bottle cages, a stem and handlebars but I was soon
dissatisfied and sent off for some other stems, handlebars, bar tape and
Matthew:
You're way over-thinking this issue. We do a lot of that here. You're on
the right track, so welcome to the group.
dougP
On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:02:29 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote:
I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate
at Rivendell to
this is a really nice place to play with toys in their yard.
On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:38:23 AM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
Matthew:
You're way over-thinking this issue. We do a lot of that here. You're on
the right track, so welcome to the group.
dougP
On Saturday, June 21, 2014
My opinion is that you must own a RBW branded frame to be an RBW owner. By
my definition, the San Marcos doesn't qualify. No amount of parts will
make a non-RBW branded frame a Rivendell.
I'd love to test ride a Riv and possibly own one but even if I don't, I
still agree with a lot of
Dude, you can buy a San Marcos* from Riv, with Riv parts installed by Riv
people, and packed by those same people in a Riv box.* It's a Rivendell.
JB
On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:56:25 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
My opinion is that you must own a RBW branded frame to be an RBW owner.
By
But in the end it's a Soma bike. No value judgement on that BTW. It's just
you can't call it a Rivendell SM.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
Dude, you can buy a San Marcos* from
Surely this is the sort of hair splitting that is anathema to this group..
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Agreed, all are welcome, even jerks like me.
On Jun 23, 2014 10:54 PM, George Millwood george.millw...@bigpond.com
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Surely this is the sort of hair splitting that is anathema to this group..
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Everyone loves a pedant. No, wait...
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com
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Agreed, all are welcome, even jerks like me.
On Jun 23, 2014 10:54 PM, George Millwood
If Herons are RBW bikes then the Soma bike is inside the bubble as well.
RBW lugs. RBW geometry. Sold by RBW.
On Jun 23, 2014, at 5:51 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
But in the end it's a Soma bike. No value judgement on that BTW. It's just
you can't call it a Rivendell
It's more of a philosophy than owning the actual frame or parts or
combination of parts to me. I always looked at the RBW owner as first and
foremost someone who likes to ride very versatile bikes and ride them for
the enjoyment and adventure of riding and being outside.
Echoing all the other
Mathew:
Excellent first post. You've stirred the bubbling pot. Sometimes things
get a bit slow in summer when people are spending more time on their
bikes.
dougP
On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:02:29 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote:
I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike
Hey there Matthew -
There's never been a litmus test. Or a percentage. Just an interest to
engage in polite discussion is all that is needed.
The topics here are definitely narrower than other lists, by design and
agreement. But the tone and quality of this group comes entirely from the
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