Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-17 Thread David Banzer
I am at the southern end of the trail. It's less maintained, more dirt/mud than actual gravel, than the northern parts, so wider tires are a plus. I'm also not too far from Illinois Prairie Path which I'd like to explore this summer. David On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 9:19:16 AM UTC-5,

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-17 Thread marshmonster
Are you near the Des Plaines River Trail? The last few time I rode it on Rat Trap Pass tires, but I have ridden it with 28c Ruffy Tuffy's and 32c Paselas no problem. Going to try it next on 28 Gravel Kings - I would have gone with 32's but they don't fit the road bike. On Sunday, May 14, 2017

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-14 Thread David Banzer
I was doing wheel/tire swaps and for fun test fit Compass Snoqualmie Pass tires. Rear is tight, I'll need to do a little modification of a DC 610 brake, but looks like these'll work. Likely will go back to Barlow Pass after I wear through these. I'm by a river trail - river does flood so mud

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-14 Thread Tim Gavin
David- Hopefully you're already riding them on this lovely midwestern day... but I understand that the Soma C-lines should feel pretty similar to a Pasela TG. Same tread, similar casing, different puncture layer (but of comparable stoutness to the TG layer). For your purposes, they should

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread R Gonet
Has anybody ridden the relatively new Shikoro from SOMA? They kind of look like the Vitesse but with some additional puncture protection. I've read some reviews on different sites and they get good ratings, both for comfortability and durability.

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread Orc
On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 3:49:52 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > ... I myself am perfectly happy riding on 35mm Forte Metro-ST tires from > Performance bike and they continue to satisfy me after multiple sets. If I > had another bike that needed that size I'd buy more. They are plenty > "supple"

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread James Warren
I don't think of Barlow Pass as a gravel tire. To me, it's a great road tire that a well designed frame can take advantage of. But I do also ride mine on dirt. -Jim W. Sent from my iPhone > On May 13, 2017, at 10:25 AM, David Banzer wrote: > > I forgot that I had a

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Stouter casing? 35 mm Kojak? The main drawback to the Compass tires for gravel, as you probably well know, is delicate casings. The Kojaks are much stouter, yet roll pretty well. IME, the Kojaks roll better, or at least as well, as the 32 mm Paselas (non TG; IME, TGs are sluggish), and they are

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread Surlyprof
I've been using the Barlow Pass ELs on my Hillborne for all my road riding swapping on a Smart Sam wheelset for dirt and gravel. Lately though, after reading Jan's blog about Drew Wilson (https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/04/13/insights-of-a-gravel-racer/), I've been trying them on all

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread David Banzer
I forgot that I had a bought a used pair of Soma C-Lines, so I can put those on now. Any comparisons between those and Barlow Pass'. If I recall the C-Line came out a little bit before, but the Barlow Pass kind of stole the spotlight when it was introduced. On Friday, May 12, 2017 at

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread panog
IMO, wider rims, wider tires and clincher open tubular casing construction have brought the gap between clinchers and tubulars much, much closer together from when rims were sized at 13c or 15c, clincher pressures were at 120+ psi and tire sidewalls were unyielding. I am also of the opinion

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread Garth
The Gravel Kings come in both smooth and mini knob versions for both 700c and 650b. I think the smooth goes up to 700x32 and 650x38 and 650bx43, while the knobby version can be had from 35mm to 43mm(Panaracer just updated the label for the 40 to say 43). But I am a bit confused with all the

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-13 Thread panog
Panaracer made Soma Supple Vitesse at 33mm for paved and 38mm for gravel/mixed. Supple walls, open tubular casing construction. Available standard or extra light. About $45 from Outside Outfitters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Orc
On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 8:00:57 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote: > > I'm familiar with Compass and have them > on a few bikes. Just curious what other options are out there. > David In 700c, there's always the Resist Nomad. The Nomad 28 is the best of the lot, but the 35s are fairly close

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread David Banzer
I'm familiar with Compass and have them on a few bikes. Just curious what other options are out there. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
David, I realize Compass isn't for everyone, but what has you scanning about? As Reed mentions, there are decent tires at lower price points, but for what you're describing Compass' offerings are quintessential. The main trick with them (and it's not much of one) is to dial in the pressure.

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Reed Kennedy
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:18 PM David Banzer wrote: > Compass Barlow Pass noted. Any other recommendations? Depends on your goals. If you want something less expensive there's the good old Panaracer Paselas, but they're only cheaper, not better. (Though they're still pretty

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread David Banzer
Compass Barlow Pass noted. Any other recommendations? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread René Sterental
+1 on the Barlow Pass tires and + everything on Patrick's experienced feedback! René On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 4:27 PM ted wrote: > Concur. My SimpleOne with Compass 700x35 does great on the SF bay levies. > Google Strada Bianca (the race not the tire), even moderate road

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread ted
Concur. My SimpleOne with Compass 700x35 does great on the SF bay levies. Google Strada Bianca (the race not the tire), even moderate road tires are fine for gravel tires. On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 3:51:56 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Barlow Pass IS a gravel tire, and top of the heap at

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Barlow Pass IS a gravel tire, and top of the heap at that. In my experience (Clement MSO, Barlow Pass), the Barlow Pass grip at least as well as the Clement and are far smoother and quieter. Hands down, they are the top of the 'gravel' category in this width for me. With abandon, Patrick On

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread David Banzer
Monstercross is setup as a single speed, Thunder Burts, will soon have Albastaches. The Redwood has had Barlow Pass tires on it before, and they do fit fine. Those certainly are an option, I am curious about 'gravel' category tires that may fit as well. David On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 3:36:53

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Kieran J
How do you have the BMC set up? Mine is great for trails wearing 700x45 knobbies. Personally, I would listen to the Redwood, put on some EL Barlows and let it be a road bike. KJ On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 4:07:52 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote: > > My Riv Redwood has been fickle over the past

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Orc
Hutchinson Confrérie des 650B; 32mm, which is small enough to be speedy, but big enough to float on gravel roads. If you're feeling daring, get a pair of TLR-ready wheels and run them tubeless at 35-45psi. -david parsons On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 1:07:52 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote: > > My

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
I do this on my Barlow Pass (700 x 38mm). http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/mudbeam-aka-quickbeam-rides-rampart-reservoir With abandon, Patrick On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 2:07:52 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: > > My Riv Redwood has been fickle over the past couple years. It wanted to be > a road

[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood Identity Crisis. Tire recommendations needed.

2017-05-12 Thread Philip Kim
if you have rides for dirt, i would consider 700x32. Paselas or Compass come to mind. i also rode Michelin Cylocross Jet tires which are 700x33. fast on pavement and some grip on dirt. On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 4:07:52 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote: > > My Riv Redwood has been fickle over the